Abaddon
Deity
Sooo, Noone gonna start a fresh start? :/
Fresh starts are so 2006. Cradles are where it's at! Man up and design your own worlds.
I need to get Iggy or NK to give a tutorial on shrouding, and also on cradle cartography in general.
save map without shroud. Shroud, upload that.
Next update, edit unshrouded map.
Simples.

Where does the intellectual ownership of an NES nation or culture lie? With the player(s) who created and manipulated it or the mod who created the world to put it in and the situations which molded it?
Fresh starts are so 2006. Cradles are where it's at! Man up and design your own worlds.
I need to get Iggy or NK to give a tutorial on shrouding, and also on cradle cartography in general.
Layers are also very helpful.save map without shroud. Shroud, upload that.
Next update, edit unshrouded map.
Simples.

I'd have to agree with that, although I'd probably say that the truth is somewhere in between... Mods help to develop nations just as players do.I think the mod shouldn't blame themself for every foul entity that is put in their NES. Therefore, on the same reasoning, they can't take credit for the good ones.
save map without shroud. Shroud, upload that.
Next update, edit unshrouded map.
Simples.

If a NES gets published or what not...
The Player is the one who has Control of the Culture, and the stories he wrote.
The Mod would get credit for the updates, as well as diplomacy and orders. (as anyone can make a culture and write stories, with or without a mod, but only in a NES can a nation conduct convincing diplomacy and send orders that actually does something.)

I just got kicked out and cussed out of the NES# chat. What's up with that? I didn't tripple post or anything.
[15:20:39] <charles> no
[15:20:39] <charles> oh yea
[15:20:44] <charles> no
[15:20:44] <charles> oh yea
[15:20:44] <charles> we have a marching band show today at the footbal game
[15:20:55] <+Mr_Wonka> sweet
[15:20:58] <+Mr_Wonka> I like bands.
[15:21:15] <charles> no
[15:21:15] <charles> oh yea
[15:21:15] <charles> we have a marching band show today at the footbal game
[15:21:22] <+Mr_Wonka> ...
[15:21:25] <+Mr_Wonka> stop that
[15:22:03] <charles> stop what?
[15:22:08] <charles> stop what?
[15:22:13] <charles> stop what?
[15:22:18] <charles> stop what?
[15:22:23] <+Mr_Wonka> that triple posting crap
[15:22:23] <charles> stop what?
[15:22:28] <charles> stop what?
[15:22:33] <charles> stop what?
[15:22:38] <charles> stop what?
[15:22:44] <charles> stop what?
[15:22:52] <charles> stop what?
[15:22:53] * Anonymoose (Moose@dormnat184.usouthal.edu) has joined #nes
[15:22:53] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Anonymoose
[15:22:58] <charles> stop what?
[15:23:09] <charles> stop what?
[15:23:15] <charles> stop what?
[15:23:20] <charles> stop what?
[15:23:23] <+Anonymoose> stop that
[15:23:26] <charles> stop what?
[15:23:37] * Kraznij is now known as kraznaya
[15:23:38] * ChanServ sets mode: +qao kraznaya kraznaya kraznaya
[15:23:40] * charles was kicked by kraznaya (shut up)