Why is misogyny wrong?

[Phlegmak]

You love your parents. It's like a rule.

Few statements are more wrong than yours.

 

[bhsup]

Few statements are more wrong than yours.

Barring the disturbed, whacked parents which make up a very, very small percentage of the population, it's not wrong. if you don't love you're parents, you're ed in the head. End of story.

 

[Yeekim]

Few statements are more wrong than yours.

Nah, I'd say it is more of "each rule has its exceptions" kind of thing...

 

[civ_king]

Tell us, honestly, did you just create this thread to have some interesting thread juxtapositions?

At any rate, it's not about hating women, it's about hating people who love unicorns, which for the most part, just happen to be women. Also, hating Janeway. Can't stress that enough. Also, when was the last time a women's book club had anything good come of it. Ok, Rowling wasn't so bad. Susanna Clarke was on top of her game. But what man doesn't just get annoyed at Oprah, that's not hating women, just TV personalities. Also, most guys just don't like slow drivers. Again, just happen to be women, but nothing sexist there. Also, in teh US women ain't into sports at all. Maybe Europe, they play your football, but here, women always be hating our football. Also, the women politicians are just annoying. The Democrat Party hates Sarah Palin for being such a classy lady, and the GOP isn't a fan of Clinton and her whole corrupt family. But that's not about the women, just about the political partisanship. Also, lattes. I tell you women drink more coffee these days than men. Men are much better off with an energy or sports drinks. So, really, it's not about hating women, it's just little things that happen to be associated with women.

Also, music videos. Sure, not everybody likes rap, but who can honestly take them Jonas brothers or girl bands and all seriously. Only other teenage girls, that's who.

 

[Kerozine]

 

[Bill3000]

Outside of the immorality of misogyny itself, misogynists are either worthless spiteful bastards of men who are bitter that they get divorced because they can't keep it in their pants, or pratty loser socially awkward teenagers who are bitter that no girl likes them.

 

[Dachs]

Two people in this thread have already stolen my line.

Outside of the immorality of misogyny itself, misogynists are either worthless spiteful bastards of men who are bitter that they get divorced because they can't keep it in their pants, or pratty loser socially awkward teenagers.

What kind of duschbag uses a word like "prat"?

 

[Erik Mesoy]

I think we need to be clear on who's using "misanthrope" to mean "hates males", who's using it to mean "hates people", and coin a new word for one of the terms.

 

[IglooDame]

Why are misogynists often portrayed as wrong, even maligned, whereas misanthropists are considered cute or even philosophically-inclined?

What's wrong with hating women, especially if someone doesn't like humanity in general? Women are just as ignorant as men, are selfish, prone to avarice and are often cowards. More so in fact, because more of their evil is socially acceptable.

All misanthropists are misogynists by definition, so what gives?

Hatred of any group of people is "wrong", and particularly so when that group of people is defined by a general characteristic which has nothing at all to do with you personally. I might readily hate the arsonist bastard that melted down my igloo last week, but that doesn't extend to hating all arsonists, all bastards, all males, or all people from Detroit.

 

[Earthling]

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/8/11/

 

[laffy]

Hatred of any group of people is "wrong", and particularly so when that group of people is defined by a general characteristic which has nothing at all to do with you personally. I might readily hate the arsonist bastard that melted down my igloo last week, but that doesn't extend to hating all arsonists, all bastards, all males, or all people from Detroit.

I completely agree that just hating the arsonist is the rational decision, since hating all people from Detroit is a bad generalization stemming from one arsonist's behavior.

Then why do most people argue that misanthropy is the rational choice? A misanthrope hates all people, including women. Many of the hate-able traits that men and women have don't readily generalize to the other sex. Between the two choices, generalizations are much better when singling out just one sex, rather than hating everyone. Hating a subset is clearly more rational than hating everyone.

But people still say that misanthropy is the better choice. Misanthropes even get book deals and stuff, get famous, and get to sleep with lots of women who like "artsy" guys. Or something like that. Why is that?

 

[Dachs]

I think the preceding post was missing enough facts and using enough weasel words to be a Wikipedia Featured Article.

 

[Gustave5436]

It kinda is a rule, if only for biological reasons.

Some people don't experience the emotion of "love," therefore any rule saying that everyone loves their parents must be false.

 

[Mirc]

The same thing that's wrong with hating any group because thery are a member of a category they didnt choose to be in

Thread over.

You love your parents. It's like a rule.

Lolwut? Where did you get that from?
(didn't read the whole thread so if someone already addressed this, sorry)

 

[bhsup]

From a sense of common decency and respect???

 

[emzie]

Some people don't experience the emotion of "love," therefore any rule saying that everyone loves their parents must be false.

I did say "kinda" for a reason.

 

[Mirc]

From a sense of common decency and respect???

My mother is (was?*) an abusive, unloving, sexually promiscuous, continuously lying, cheating, self-centered... person, who always loved bragging about my achievements with which she had nothing to do, and who destroyed the better part of my father's life, him being the only person that has supported me throughout my entire life, and to whom I owe most of my education and well-being. Why exactly should I love her?

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* she's still alive and well, but not like this any more (because well.. she doesn't have the power anymore)

 

[IglooDame]

I completely agree that just hating the arsonist is the rational decision, since hating all people from Detroit is a bad generalization stemming from one arsonist's behavior.

Then why do most people argue that misanthropy is the rational choice? A misanthrope hates all people, including women. Many of the hate-able traits that men and women have don't readily generalize to the other sex. Between the two choices, generalizations are much better when singling out just one sex, rather than hating everyone. Hating a subset is clearly more rational than hating everyone.

But people still say that misanthropy is the better choice. Misanthropes even get book deals and stuff, get famous, and get to sleep with lots of women who like "artsy" guys. Or something like that. Why is that?

Hating all people can be written off as classical emo-ness, general grumpiness, philosophical disappointment in humanity, or some such. And by the way I categorically disagree with the statement I've bolded above. Hating the correct subset (the set of individuals who have actually pissed me off in one way or another) is rational, hating a subset of people most of whom you have never heard of or laid eyes on is irrational on any level, to say nothing of self-defeating and a waste of energies.

 

[Bill3000]

My mother is (was?*) an abusive, unloving, sexually promiscuous, continuously lying, cheating, self-centered... person, who always loved bragging about my achievements with which she had nothing to do, and who destroyed the better part of my father's life, him being the only person that has supported me throughout my entire life, and to whom I owe most of my education and well-being. Why exactly should I love her?

Because she's your mother and gave you birth.

 

[Mirc]

Does that work for great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents too? Or for anyone that lived far enough in the past that their mere existence, thanks to the butterfly effect, would render me not being born, had they not performed the actions that they performed during their lifetimes?

Also, I don't get the pic...