would jesus have joined the army?

Jesus would not join thearmy. The whole point, whether you're Christian or not, is that he taught people to love their enemies. While defending, fighting is justified, but Jesus would show us the way to peace. Jesus, in essence, tried to teach more than lead.

Some people here would claim you're not a true christian if you hold these views. Be careful, Lemmiwinks!
 
Some people here would claim you're not a true christian if you hold these views

My thoughts entirely, Billy Budd.

To be frank, I'm always AMAZED when people claim to be Christian. I can only conclude their notions are entirely different from mine.

But there it is. Physician heal thyself. Motes and eyes and beams and such like. Well, widows mite but I wouldn't.

he taught people to love their enemies.

And not only that. Weren't we also supposed to do good to those that hate us? Rather than bombing them to bits, that is. But I surely have the wrong idea. Not being a Christian, myself.
 
Just like every other classical history source.

The ancients believed there were many bizarre things in places only traversed by their imaginations. For example, unexplored parts of the map might have dragons in them. Instead, it was just New Jersey. Almost as frightening as a dragon, and only twice as smoke-filled.

And of course the heavens and the underworld were filled with any number of fantastic creatures, usually some Frankenstein-monster combination of other less fantastic creatures. Lions and birds and serpents. All very ferocious and dangerous and mysterious things. Better stay inside the mud hut for your protection.

The future, now that's quite the place. Revelations tells us about men riding horses and firing bows, and dragons coming out of the oceans and the earth, and people playing trumpets and wearing white robes. Swords, yes... all very futuristic things. Plus more bizarre combinations of extant animals. And there will be angels and horns and crowns and wounded heads that are miraculously healed, causing people to follow it. Because, after all, nobody would run away from anything that has a massive, bleeding headwound. Such a thing instantly adds credibility points. He's obviously got severe brain damage, therefore, we must make him our glorious leader.

As a matter of fact, Bleeding Headwound Dragon might even outpoll Barack Obama, assuming the election is won or lost based on the economy. The dragon has seven crowns, therefore he must know a lot about accumulating wealth in the free market.

Romney/Bleeding Headwound Dragon 2012.
 
Jesus would not join thearmy. The whole point, whether you're Christian or not, is that he taught people to love their enemies. While defending, fighting is justified, but Jesus would show us the way to peace. Jesus, in essence, tried to serve more than lead.

I agree with all of that with one minor modification.

Some people here would claim you're not a true christian if you hold these views. Be careful, Lemmiwinks!

Who here would do that? By all means, name them.
 
You know, I already knew to what you'd potholed "leader". :)
 
Yes, yes this is all very, very true, and very much backed up by most of the parts of the Bible which discuss Jesus.

At the same time, he's also purportedly the son of the very same God mentioned in Revelations and the Old Testament, who is much more fire and brimstone and bloody orgy of death and genocide. And he's also essentially the same being as God, according to the Trinity-based view. And he's also supposedly leading the charge, with the sword, in Revelations. With chariots and other nonsense.

Which is one of the million reasons the Bible is contradictory, old, dangly balls.

I don't read much into the OT. The NT was meant to correct it.
 
I don't read much into the OT. The NT was meant to correct it.
Except of course when it wasn't, which curiously often coincides with the need of OT support for several forms of legislation.
 
The ancients believed there were many bizarre things in places only traversed by their imaginations. For example, unexplored parts of the map might have dragons in them. Instead, it was just New Jersey. Almost as frightening as a dragon, and only twice as smoke-filled.

And of course the heavens and the underworld were filled with any number of fantastic creatures, usually some Frankenstein-monster combination of other less fantastic creatures. Lions and birds and serpents. All very ferocious and dangerous and mysterious things. Better stay inside the mud hut for your protection.

The future, now that's quite the place. Revelations tells us about men riding horses and firing bows, and dragons coming out of the oceans and the earth, and people playing trumpets and wearing white robes. Swords, yes... all very futuristic things. Plus more bizarre combinations of extant animals. And there will be angels and horns and crowns and wounded heads that are miraculously healed, causing people to follow it. Because, after all, nobody would run away from anything that has a massive, bleeding headwound. Such a thing instantly adds credibility points. He's obviously got severe brain damage, therefore, we must make him our glorious leader.

As a matter of fact, Bleeding Headwound Dragon might even outpoll Barack Obama, assuming the election is won or lost based on the economy. The dragon has seven crowns, therefore he must know a lot about accumulating wealth in the free market.

Romney/Bleeding Headwound Dragon 2012.
You have a remarkable capacity for creating overlong posts that are only at best tangentially related to whatever you were quoting.

It's like r16 without as many conspiracy theories and grammatical errors.
 
I don't read much into the OT. The NT was meant to correct it.

The NT wasnt a correction, but a completion of prophecy.

Matthew 5:17

17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill
 
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill"

The law or the prophets isn't the OT, and Jesus did make corrections - like divorce law, working on the Sabbath, dietary and cleanliness laws, Temple proceedings and sacrifices, all sorts of stuff. The "Law" is love God and love others, not stone people to death for gathering firewood on the Sabbath. How can the "new" covenant not correct a flaw with the old one?
 
No, it is not easy. But salvation is a gift.

One cannot earn salvation, none is good in the eyes of God. The best works of man is rags to God.

Ah the "God randomly condemns people to hell from birth, but it's okay because he picks a lot of white people to go to heaven" theology.

Have fun with that.
 
The weird thing about the left is that sexual preference isn't hard coded and yet it is never possible to change and yet gender is hard coded and yet you are free to choose the gender you want.

Here's an even funnier thing about the left: We're going to do everything in our power to make sure that gaybashing is the new KKK.
 
Why would the NT need to correct the infallible word of God?

SOMETHING SINISTER IS AFOOT HERE.
 
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