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garric said:
. Mormons are an earlier sect that can be compared to Scientology, I do not consider them true Christians. By the way, before you say anything, I am an atheist.

Please, enlighen me more about why Mormons are like scientologists.
 
since when do mormons conduct a pyramid sceme and attack all who disagree with it?


oh and I would vote for anyone as long as they're not a scientologist or other cult.
 
Warman17 said:
since when do mormons conduct a pyramid sceme and attack all who disagree with it?


oh and I would vote for anyone as long as they're not a scientologist or other cult.
Read upon the history of the Mormons. They were created by a fraud, a "prophet" who lived in the 1800s. Their stories are not Christianity but a bunch of random ramblings that are very similar to what Scientology preaches, and is very much an excuse for polygamy and abuse of women.
 
garric said:
Assuming that this is about America, this nation is a Christian nation, I would trust neither of those religions besides Catholics. Mormons are an earlier sect that can be compared to Scientology, I do not consider them true Christians. By the way, before you say anything, I am an atheist.

Being an atheist doesn't absolve you from being intolerant about Mormonism nor blind to the fact that this nation is a Secular nation.

garric said:
Read upon the history of the Mormons. They were created by a fraud, a "prophet" who lived in the 1800s. Their stories are not Christianity but a bunch of random ramblings that are very similar to what Scientology preaches, and is very much an excuse for polygamy and abuse of women.

That is the most offensive and idiotic thing I have ever read about Mormons. Garric, please read up on current history about the Church of Latter-Day Saints before you continue.
 
garric said:
Read upon the history of the Mormons. They were created by a fraud, a "prophet" who lived in the 1800s. Their stories are not Christianity but a bunch of random ramblings that are very similar to what Scientology preaches, and is very much an excuse for polygamy and abuse of women.


I am sorry dear Garric, but this is simply wrong.
Polygamy has not been practiced for over 100 years, and I'd like to see some evidence for your claims that the church condones abuse of women (in fact, abusing your spouse gets you expelled from the church), or that there are significant docterinal similarities between Mormonism and Scientology.

Sorry for the threadjack. I find it unsual that some of our conservative posters would reject a qualified individual (who, most likely, would be quite conservative), because of something stupid like this. Speaks volumes I think.
 
garric said:
Read upon the history of the Mormons. They were created by a fraud, a "prophet" who lived in the 1800s. Their stories are not Christianity but a bunch of random ramblings that are very similar to what Scientology preaches, and is very much an excuse for polygamy and abuse of women.

Perhaps you might be thinking of the splinter Mormons that branched off out of the mainstream Mormonism.

For me personaly, I would not vote for a Mormon who is in one of thoes schism groups that branched away from mainline Mormonism.

I hope I am not stepping on Matt's or any Mormon's feet since there are schism groups out there that broke away from Mormonism in the past. Eventhough we do have different beliefs as well as disagree with Mormonism, I still have a respect for Mormon Orthodoxy (LDS).
 
garric said:
Read upon the history of the Mormons. They were created by a fraud, a "prophet" who lived in the 1800s. Their stories are not Christianity but a bunch of random ramblings that are very similar to what Scientology preaches, and is very much an excuse for polygamy and abuse of women.

I may disagree with Mormonism, but I have several friends who are Mormons and the one thing I respect the most about them is their family values. I suggest you learn more about their beliefs before disrespecting them that way. I believe their a borderline cult, but I admire their morals. As a matter of fact, my wife and I are going to a pancake breakfast tomorrow with Mormon friends of ours at their Church.
 
Mormonism isn't any worse then any other organised religion

I would vote for any of those candidates except the scientoligist
 
MattBrown said:
Sorry for the threadjack. I find it unsual that some of our conservative posters would reject a qualified individual (who, most likely, would be quite conservative), because of something stupid like this. Speaks volumes I think.

Can't please all of em, eh?

I'm not trying to impress anyone here, I'm just stating my opinion. And to those telling me to read up on Mormon history should follow their own advice and realize what I'm saying is true. With your logic, Scientology will soon be accepted as much as Mormonism is today.
 
garric said:
Can't please all of em, eh?

I'm not trying to impress anyone here, I'm just stating my opinion. And to those telling me to read up on Mormon history should follow their own advice and realize what I'm saying is true. With your logic, Scientology will soon be accepted as much as Mormonism is today.

Then you should know that polygamy is no longer practiced by the mainstream Mormon religion, and the Mormons I know don't abuse their women. Unless you want to judge all of Mormonism by its extreme offshoots.

As for Joseph Smith Jr.'s credibility, all religious leaders' accounts are up for question, so why don't we question Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, Lao Tzu, etc.?
 
garric said:
And to those telling me to read up on Mormon history should follow their own advice and realize what I'm saying is true.

Interesting how you put words into my mouth garric. In the above post you state read up on Mormon history when in post #27 I state I suggest you learn more about their beliefs. History...beliefs... it's not like you put words in my mouth.

There's a big difference in history and beliefs, and not just with Mormons, but all religions.
 
I'd vote for all except the scientologist, and even then I might make an exception.
 
I would be very wary of the scientologist, and maybe a little wary of the pagan, but I'd be fine with any of the others.
 
MattBrown said:
...vote for a Scientologist?
....A Muslim?
....A Mormon?
....A Pagan?
....A Hindu?
.....A Catholic?

To be honest, I'd have difficulty voting for a Scientologist. Believing in scientology, more than any other religion, shows a sort of weakness of character and susceptibility to outside influence that I don't want in a leader. While other religions have their origins obscured in the mists of time, the falsehood of Scientology is simple to see. (This is also an issue with Mormons, but a much lesser one given that Mormonism is older and its history more obscured and is based on an extremely old religion. I don't think it would preclude me from voting for a Mormon.)

None of the others are a problem at all.
 
Methos said:
I may disagree with Mormonism, but I have several friends who are Mormons and the one thing I respect the most about them is their family values. I suggest you learn more about their beliefs before disrespecting them that way. I believe the[y are] a borderline cult, but I admire their morals. As a matter of fact, my wife and I are going to a pancake breakfast tomorrow with Mormon friends of ours at their Church.
Exactly what I was saying.
 
They were created by a fraud, a "prophet" who lived in the 1800s. Their stories are not Christianity but a bunch of random ramblings that are very similar to what Scientology preaches, and is very much an excuse for polygamy and abuse of women.
I fail to see what makes Joseph Smith less of a prophet than any other ones. A true prophet should be as valid no matter the time period. Polygamy I see nothing wrong with as long as the women are treated equally. I don't equate polygamy with abuse of women, and I don't think that Mormons are inherently given to abuse their women, so I disagree with that statement as well.

I'd vote for all of them. The Scientologist would probably not have my views. But if he did, I'd vote for him if there was no one better. I'm surprised at the skepticism of Pagans. I for one would be more trusting of Pagans, since they do not have a higher organization that would influence their thinking (as far as I know-I don't know too much about Paganism).
 
I don't see how Mormonism is a cult. They don't rip off their followers (at least not as badly as any other religion would)
 
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