jonatas
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Serutan said:
It might be too late
That's what I'm hoping at least. The Pistons have acted like royalty all year... like they deserve the championship. Man I hope Lebron takes them.
2006 NBA Playoffs
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It might be too late
That's what I'm hoping at least. The Pistons have acted like royalty all year... like they deserve the championship. Man I hope Lebron takes them.
jonatas
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zanahoria said:Don't worry... Texans have a long way to go.
I live in Phoenix and root for the suns. Im curious about what other team's fans think of them. Are we just an annoying little team who happens to have the MVP?
I think Steve Nash is a very strange 2 time consecutive MVP. All the other guys who won it twice consecutively are basically in the top 10 of all time players. Nash isn't, though I think he's a very good playmaker. I like Boris Diaw and Shawn Marion too, both very versatile players. To be honest though, I'm tired of the Suns gimmicky offense approach to the game and really hope the Clippers win the last two, though that is highly unlikely.
jonatas said:
I agree with you. Considering MVP stands for Most Valuable Player, Kobe should have won... without him the Lakers wouldnt have won a quarter of their games. But the Suns have some other good guards. Plus next year when Stoudamire comes back theyll actually have a big man.
Their offense is strange, all their forwards can make outside shots (and they currently don't have a center), but I think that too will change when amare comes back
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I don't think the Cavaliers know what BOXING OUT is! Man, those last couple offensive rebounds by the Pistons allowed them to waste down the clock...lucky that Billups missed the FT at the end. LeBron should've taken the three at the end though, rather than passing it off...there's now two games going to a Game 7, we'll see if the Spurs-Mavs do too...
The Mavs should be very worried trying to win game 7 in San Antonio. It's been an amazing series with 5 games that could've gone either way. Not only that, it's part of an amazing NBA playoff run so far (haven't seen that in years) with game 7 deciding 3 series.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
This lot of playoffs has to be the tightest ever. The vast majority of series have been going the distance which is good for the NBA.
I can't even watch Espn or Tnt's coverage of this Cavs-Pistons series. All's they ever talk about is how dominant LeBron has been. 4 assists to 7 turnovers is not dominant. 10 of 31 shooting (from game 5) is not dominant. Last night's 8 of 20 shooting is hardly convincing either, and he was a one-man catastrophe in the 4th quarter when they needed him the most. See, I can say this because I'm not being paid to promote a dying association whose apparent one last breath wears #23 in Cleveland.
I'm a Pistons fan and even though game 7 is in Detroit, I'm still nervous. The Pistons clearly are the superior team, but give LeBron an off-arm and 4 steps without dribbling and there's absolutely nothing he can't do. I've come to the sinking realization that, somewhere down the line, the Cavs are going to be the one to dethrone the Pistons in the Eastern Conference, and that it will not be because they're the better team, either. This may even come this Sunday afternoon.
I'm a Pistons fan and even though game 7 is in Detroit, I'm still nervous. The Pistons clearly are the superior team, but give LeBron an off-arm and 4 steps without dribbling and there's absolutely nothing he can't do. I've come to the sinking realization that, somewhere down the line, the Cavs are going to be the one to dethrone the Pistons in the Eastern Conference, and that it will not be because they're the better team, either. This may even come this Sunday afternoon.
Its not a dying association, especially with these playoffs. Your about 10 years behind...scoring is up, attendance is up, STARPOWER is up too.
Its a great time for the NBA and its about to get even better I think, because highschool players are gone. Finally, good riddance to them.
And I cant tell...are you saying LeBron is amazing or that he gets all the foul calls? I seriously couldnt dicipher that last paragraph.
Its a great time for the NBA and its about to get even better I think, because highschool players are gone. Finally, good riddance to them.
And I cant tell...are you saying LeBron is amazing or that he gets all the foul calls? I seriously couldnt dicipher that last paragraph.
jonatas
tropicalista
Wow, another smack talking Pistons fan Listen, the Pistons have been godawful in this series against Cleveland, that's why they lost 3 in a row. They didn't lose those games because of a conspiracy. What happened is Detroit got a reality check after living like fat cats and acting like royalty all season.
And about Lebron, I guess you missed the dunk where he powered through the heart of the Pistons (Billups and Sheed) and dunked with two hands over Ben. That is a play only Lebron could make, no other player in the NBA is strong and gifted enough to do that. Really, there's nothing worse than a sore loser.
Listen, the Pistons have been godawful in this series against Cleveland, that's why they lost 3 in a row. They didn't lose those games because of a conspiracy. What happened is Detroit got a reality check after living like fat cats and acting like royalty all season. And about Lebron, I guess you missed the dunk where he powered through the heart of the Pistons (Billups and Sheed) and dunked with two hands over Ben. That is a play only Lebron could make, no other player in the NBA is strong and gifted enough to do that. Really, there's nothing worse than a sore loser.
Well I guess I'm the first smack talker in the history of Planet Earth to be worried that his team may lose.
I'm not saying the Pistons are playing well and that they deserve to be up 6-0 in this series. The only game they lost that I felt they didn't deserve to lose was game 5. Don't get me wrong, the Cavs earned that game with the way they played; it was just the type of game that neither team deserved to lose. But there was no way Chauncey Billups committed 6 fouls in that game, especially the offensive foul on a fast break in a tie game in the 4th. Their final possession was pathetic and I just think with Billups handling the ball on their final possession, they at least get a good look.
I think LeBron is an outstanding player. He gets help which enables him to stretch the highlight reels farther than he really needs (the dunk that jonatas speaks of, yes I did see that, and by the rules, that's traveling), but that's part of the game, as much as I hate to admit it. But what I meant was, he's also human. He was not great in game 6. He was not great in game 5. He is only 21 and perhaps at some point in his career, he will become unstoppable in every game. Who knows. But let's not give him credit for things he does not deserve.
I do not think the NBA is a dying league. I'd say it's my second favorite pro sports league behind baseball, which many people also believe is a dying league. However, if I listened to the media with a closed mind and believed everything that I hear, I'd be convinced that the only American sports I'm supposed to care about anymore are football and Nascar. It's ridiculous and I'm sick of it. But I do think the NBA is an underappreciated league and it's all because of its own marketing. They promote themselves through individual play more than any other league, but usually, the best teams can override the best individuals. So when the Spurs and Pistons and their zero superstars meet in the finals, the casual fan is bored to death.
I'm not saying the Pistons are playing well and that they deserve to be up 6-0 in this series. The only game they lost that I felt they didn't deserve to lose was game 5. Don't get me wrong, the Cavs earned that game with the way they played; it was just the type of game that neither team deserved to lose. But there was no way Chauncey Billups committed 6 fouls in that game, especially the offensive foul on a fast break in a tie game in the 4th. Their final possession was pathetic and I just think with Billups handling the ball on their final possession, they at least get a good look.
I think LeBron is an outstanding player. He gets help which enables him to stretch the highlight reels farther than he really needs (the dunk that jonatas speaks of, yes I did see that, and by the rules, that's traveling), but that's part of the game, as much as I hate to admit it. But what I meant was, he's also human. He was not great in game 6. He was not great in game 5. He is only 21 and perhaps at some point in his career, he will become unstoppable in every game. Who knows. But let's not give him credit for things he does not deserve.
I do not think the NBA is a dying league. I'd say it's my second favorite pro sports league behind baseball, which many people also believe is a dying league. However, if I listened to the media with a closed mind and believed everything that I hear, I'd be convinced that the only American sports I'm supposed to care about anymore are football and Nascar. It's ridiculous and I'm sick of it. But I do think the NBA is an underappreciated league and it's all because of its own marketing. They promote themselves through individual play more than any other league, but usually, the best teams can override the best individuals. So when the Spurs and Pistons and their zero superstars meet in the finals, the casual fan is bored to death.
I can partially agree with that last paragraph then. I really dont want NASCAR to become any more popular, I severely dislike that sport. It just doesnt generate any excitement to me like the NBA, NFL, or even MLB does.
The promotion of individual superstars is just the nature of the game though. 1 man can carry an entire team and USUALLY you need a great superstar to win a championship (Russell, Magic, Bird, Olajuwon, Jordan, Shaq, Duncan/Robinson, Isaiah Thomas). The Pistons completely bucked the trend and scared the hell out of some NBA officials I bet because they won the NBA title over the flashy Lakers by beating them 90's style...by slowing down the game and playing defense. I do hate the NBA because it seems to latch onto 1 guy at a time, trying to recreate something thats never going to be recreated again.
The NFL doesnt do that, mainly because you remember thier good times by teams. The STEELERS of the 70's, the COWBOYS of whatever decade, the REDSKINS, 49'ers, etc. Teams run by 1 player (Lions with Sanders, Dolphins with Marino, maybe even Colts with Manning) are not going to win often. So the NFL makes no effort to try and promote the league around 1 player. Its why I hated the ESPN Sunday Night broadcast crew, they latched themselves onto a superstar player every night...thats not NFL, thats NBA.
The promotion of individual superstars is just the nature of the game though. 1 man can carry an entire team and USUALLY you need a great superstar to win a championship (Russell, Magic, Bird, Olajuwon, Jordan, Shaq, Duncan/Robinson, Isaiah Thomas). The Pistons completely bucked the trend and scared the hell out of some NBA officials I bet because they won the NBA title over the flashy Lakers by beating them 90's style...by slowing down the game and playing defense. I do hate the NBA because it seems to latch onto 1 guy at a time, trying to recreate something thats never going to be recreated again.
The NFL doesnt do that, mainly because you remember thier good times by teams. The STEELERS of the 70's, the COWBOYS of whatever decade, the REDSKINS, 49'ers, etc. Teams run by 1 player (Lions with Sanders, Dolphins with Marino, maybe even Colts with Manning) are not going to win often. So the NFL makes no effort to try and promote the league around 1 player. Its why I hated the ESPN Sunday Night broadcast crew, they latched themselves onto a superstar player every night...thats not NFL, thats NBA.
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Cavs go down the toilet...
Yeah, the real Pistons finally showed up in the 2nd half. 23 second half points for Cleveland. My hat's off to the Cavs though; they played a whale of a series and really were a tip-in away from eliminating the best team in basketball. The Pistons right now have a roster loaded up with big bodies that are only on the team to defend Shaq in the playoffs, and now that Shaq really should be looking to hang it up before too long, I can totally see the Pistons loading up on Lindsey Hunter-type defensive specialists to give LeBron headaches in the playoffs.
But about the NBA and individual vs. team play, I really think the new NBA is unselfish team play with an emphasis on defense, and by 'latching on' to individuals, they're just setting up onlooking fans for disappointment. That's what the Pistons did in '04, that's what the Spurs did in '03 and '05, and all of the favorites to win it all this year play that way, with Dallas converting to that style and being pretty damn good at it already. The good teams easily could lock down teams with one superstar, and the best teams could lock down any with 2 superstars. I mean, with Shaq in his prime with Dwyane Wade now, the Heat are the champs in this league. But he's not in his prime anymore and there's no other duo that's high-caliber enough to contend on their own. Shaq and Kobe were the last to do it and because of the salary cap and the money those players demand, you just won't see many teams like those Laker teams anymore.
But about the NBA and individual vs. team play, I really think the new NBA is unselfish team play with an emphasis on defense, and by 'latching on' to individuals, they're just setting up onlooking fans for disappointment. That's what the Pistons did in '04, that's what the Spurs did in '03 and '05, and all of the favorites to win it all this year play that way, with Dallas converting to that style and being pretty damn good at it already. The good teams easily could lock down teams with one superstar, and the best teams could lock down any with 2 superstars. I mean, with Shaq in his prime with Dwyane Wade now, the Heat are the champs in this league. But he's not in his prime anymore and there's no other duo that's high-caliber enough to contend on their own. Shaq and Kobe were the last to do it and because of the salary cap and the money those players demand, you just won't see many teams like those Laker teams anymore.
Man that Mavs vs Spurs game nearly gave me a heart attack. Although I must contend that Dirk fouled Duncan with no time on the clock in the 4th that should have sent him to the line for two free throws and thus the Spurs win. Oh well, he was never the same after that point and was 1 for 6 in OT. For the Mavs...wow just when you think they've blown it they score 5 straight almost automatically.
Either way, I believe the Western Conference Finals has just been played. Whomever wins the Suns/Clippers game tonight will be playing for second place...
Either way, I believe the Western Conference Finals has just been played. Whomever wins the Suns/Clippers game tonight will be playing for second place...
