2020 US Election (Part One)

[Socrates99]

I just want to point out that red and purple states dont exactly skew right in the Democrat primary. Bernie won red states like NE, KS, OK and purple states like MI and WI. People in red states dont always skew right on everything. Sometimes they're economically liberal while being socially conservative.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

How often do debates change the results of elections as measured by shifting polls before the election which are then confirmed by the election? Either in primaries or the general?

 

[Ironsided]

I take it this is the Sanders silence a baby moment? Make of it what you will and of any people mentioning it ever again.

 

[Socrates99]

How often do debates change the results of elections as measured by shifting polls before the election which are then confirmed by the election? Either in primaries or the general?

I don't know how often but, Sanders 2015. The guy had next to no name recognition and ran mostly as an issues candidate with the intent to drag Hillary to the left on a few things. People heard things they liked and he gained steam.

 

[Lexicus]

I take it this is the Sanders silence a baby moment? Make of it what you will and of any people mentioning it ever again.

SCANDAL!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sommerswerd]

no, more like they don't impact the election so why should they impact the primary? less overton, at least consciously speaking it was not something I took into serious account.

Arguably, that is part of the thought process behind superdelegates... they can in theory cancel out that impact, however... we know how folks feel about that.

I also seem to remember there being some discussion in 2016 about putting some kind of penalty on states that had voted Republican in the prior election, by making the states that voted Democrat have their votes count some percentage more... but I don't know where that discussion went, besides nowhere.

you got me wondering what % of WV Republicans would refuse to vote for a nominee because they're black

The simple answer is...we will find out when the Republican party nominates a black candidate for POTUS. When you just sit back and think about that you've got your answer.

On a related note...that's a convenient benefit of being a Republican voter. Democratic voters had to go through the exercise of explaining why they wouldn't support the Democratic nominee. Some common obvious excuses/pretenses were "he's arrogant" or "he's too radical". Some of the common answers that more strongly suggested subconscious racial prejudice were "something about him just rubs me the wrong way, I don't know exactly what it is" or "I just don't trust him, I don't know why". Another more obvious one further along the spectrum was "he's Muslim" or "he wasn't born in this country". But then you got all the way to the end of the spectrum with people outright saying "he's an Arab" or "I can't vote for a black person" as their reasoning.

But Republican voters didn't have to be bothered with any of that. They could just call him a radical socialist communist liberal Democrat, or simply a Democrat, and that's reason enough not to vote for him. So like I said, we need the Republicans to at least manage to nominate someone black for POTUS before that is even a legitimate question.

could it be the LP is the whitest and least racist of the 3?

No, I don't think so, because its not about the party, its about the people.

 

[Kyriakos]

I take it this is the Sanders silence a baby moment? Make of it what you will and of any people mentioning it ever again.

Fox n friends. What an utter trash show

 

[Broken_Erika]

So, when do the "Bernie Hates Babies" T-shirts and bumper stickers go on sale?

 

[Berzerker]

You really take sides and hold grudges against people? Why, you don't know Harris personally right?

As for the gaffe, doesn't sound good, but I'd need to look it up and frankly, what benefit is there? Also, how does this compare to Sanders silencing a baby? Not to speak of Trump. May this be a situation where a woman is judged more harshly than a man?

Sanders shushing a baby made the news too, so do Trump's numerous gaffes. Why is she exempt from ridicule? It was the PC disability crowd who raised a fuss about her gaffe. If only babies could form a lobby to argue for the right to cry at political events.

 

[mitsho]

She's not. But that gaffe doesn't end her presidential run. I was more commenting on Kyriakos' follow-up statement than your post. And frankly, I'm kinda over such outrage "scandals". I try not to look up the details since it bores me.

 

[Berzerker]

I dont have a problem with her laughing at the guy's comments about Trump, but then she lied about it. How can she blast Trump for lying when she's on tape doing the same thing?

 

[Narz]

Kamala Harris is in hot water... A guy at her rally referred to Trump's ******** behavior and she laughed. The people with disabilities didn't take kindly to that, so she denied hearing the guy's comment. It was clear from the video she not only heard what he said, she started laughing and agreeing with him. So she lied too.

She's always came off pretty high on the sociopath scale to me.

 

[Zardnaar]

Looks like the special election in North Carolina is more competitive than it should be.

Go Trump, best asset ever for Dems.

And it's over still a 12 point lead in a red state down to 2%.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Looks like the special election in North Carolina is more competitive than it should be.

Go Trump, best asset ever for Dems.

And it's over still a 12 point lead in a red state down to 2%.

The Republicans have sued to keep the polls open - but only in a single precinct of the district that heavily favors them. This, after they got caught cheating the election in 2018. Unbelievable.

 

[Commodore]

The Republicans have sued to keep the polls open - but only in a single precinct of the district that heavily favors them. This, after they got caught cheating the election in 2018. Unbelievable.

There was no cheating in this election. Just because a Republican won and you don't like it doesn't mean the election was illegitimate.

Funny how Dems always express their fear of Republicans not accepting election results but it's always Dems that whine like children about cheating when they lose.

 

[Zardnaar]

There was no cheating in this election. Just because a Republican won and you don't like it doesn't mean the election was illegitimate.

Funny how Dems always express their fear of Republicans not accepting election results but it's always Dems that whine like children about cheating when they lose.

I didn't expect them to win but that was a fairly red state.
How many red and purple states were won by 10% or less

 

[cardgame]

There was no cheating in this election. Just because a Republican won and you don't like it doesn't mean the election was illegitimate.

Funny how Dems always express their fear of Republicans not accepting election results but it's always Dems that whine like children about cheating when they lose.

Dems whine about cheating when cheating happens. Like Florida 2000 or the actual fudging candidate being on the commission to count the votes. That wouldn't even happen in the soviet union of conservative's wet dreams.

 

[Commodore]

Dems whine about cheating when cheating happens

No, they don't. They whine when they think cheating happened because they are so convinced of their own superiority that they believe the only way a Republican could beat them is by cheating. The whole Russia investigation is a prime example of this.

 

[Lexicus]

No, they don't. They whine when they think cheating happened because they are so convinced of their own superiority that they believe the only way a Republican could beat them is by cheating. The whole Russia investigation is a prime example of this.

Whereas Republicans are really onto something with all that complaining about illegal votes and voter fraud...

 

[El_Machinae]

This is where we allow "not all Republicans". Trump's claims of "millions of illegal voters" might be what ruins the United States in 2020