2020 US Election (Part Two)

[Patine]

The court's decision over the past 10 years have already made it into a complete joke.

The U.S. Supreme Court has been a joke, and of it's rulings potentially able to be called as suspect due to undue bias from the bench since justices were nominated and confirmed for ideological view and political partisan patronage and spoils appointments over competence and lack of bias, which pretty started while some of the actual Founding Fathers were still alive.

So what's the plan of the Democrats, journalists, civil service, judiciary, when Trump tries to have himself declared the winner on election night, directly claiming that later vote counting is faked and illegitimate, and tries to have judges endorse a victory and presumably stop that voting before the votes can be counted? He's telling everyone that's the plan now.

Does the entire defence rest in a tiny group of old men and women?

It seems that you, like many others, expect the U.S. Military to help keep him in power in the event of him arbitrarily declaring he won't accept defeat and step, even if illegitimately. I somehow don't see the U.S. Military taking that immense gamble and utterly destroying the prestige they often pride themselves on holding in American society to illegitimately keep in power a President they find an incompetent Commander-in-Chief, and who is an embarrassment and insults them. And, to boot, given his record on foreign and military affairs from a long service in the Senate, I'm pretty sure the U.S. Military would prefer Biden anyways.

 

[Farm Boy]

Its not strange at all... My Dad used to have a saying which went, roughly... "A woman can fall in love with anything, just remember that you can't bring that car inside with you."

He would explain that you could meet someone and feel head over heels in love and seem like you were meant for each other... then one day the love would just evaporate and you wouldn't know why... because it really was that she was subconsciously "in love" with that cool car you had, not you, so when you traded in the car, she lost all her passion for you without really knowing why... Or one day it would seem like the woman (or women in general) were all over you, and then next time you saw them they wouldn't give you a second glance. Well what you failed to realize is that on that particular day, you had a fancy haircut, or you were wearing the latest fashion or some flashy jewelry... and that was why you were so attractive.

So yes, absolutely... those women in the picture do find Trump attractive, but its not necessarily that they think he's so handsome, its the total package, and the wealth and fame and fancy suit is all a part of that. Those same women wouldn't probably give him a second glance if he was an inmate in an orange jumpsuit or some average joe, cutting his lawn in a t-shirt and dockers.

Total agreement, but... anybody cutting their lawn with whatever is living on his head is still going to get at least a double take.

 

[Narz]

Its not strange at all... My Dad used to have a saying which went, roughly... "A woman can fall in love with anything, just remember that you can't bring that car inside with you."

He would explain that you could meet someone and feel head over heels in love and seem like you were meant for each other... then one day the love would just evaporate and you wouldn't know why... because it really was that she was subconsciously "in love" with that cool car you had, not you, so when you traded in the car, she lost all her passion for you without really knowing why... Or one day it would seem like the woman (or women in general) were all over you, and then next time you saw them they wouldn't give you a second glance. Well what you failed to realize is that on that particular day, you had a fancy haircut, or you were wearing the latest fashion or some flashy jewelry... and that was why you were so attractive.

So yes, absolutely... those women in the picture do find Trump attractive, but its not necessarily that they think he's so handsome, its the total package, and the wealth and fame and fancy suit is all a part of that. Those same women wouldn't probably give him a second glance if he was an inmate in an orange jumpsuit or some average joe, cutting his lawn in a t-shirt and dockers.

Men are attracted to beauty, women are attracted to power.

 

[Takhisis]

If everyone knows the plan, it is not likely to work.

This is not a self-evident statement. Can you show your work?

Uhm…

 

[Takhisis]

Men are attracted to beauty, women are attracted to power.

The feminism is strong in this one.

 

[Hrothbern]

Men are attracted to beauty, women are attracted to power.

Do you mean power over themselves ?
Or power over others ?

 

[AmazonQueen]

Do you mean power over themselves ?
Or power over others ?

Remember Lady Ragnell's Riddle "What do women want?".
"Power over men" and "The same thing as men" were both acceptable answers.

 

[Hrothbern]

Remember Lady Ragnell's Riddle "What do women want?".
"Power over men" and "The same thing as men" were both acceptable answers.

TIL

And what a nice story

https://storiestogrowby.org/story/sir-gawain-the-lady-ragnell/

 

[Patine]

Men are attracted to beauty, women are attracted to power.

That's not an absolute, just a stereotype.

 

[Kyriakos]

Well, I can't say it was much of a story. But what can you expect from arthurian tales

Also, females were sovereign in some societies, Sparta for example. And there they mostly wished to look hot, going by various texts we have. Spartan women spent hours at the gym(nasium) each day.

 

[Zkribbler]

Obama wasn't actually very revolution at all. If he'd kept all his promises....

Don't forget, he was the most filibustered President in U.S. history. The Republican strategy was to make Obama fail, no matter how much it hurt America and Americans, and then blame Obama. They are a party of power-crazed traitors.

 

[Patine]

Spartan women spent hours at the gym(nasium) each day.

To look like modern-day serious, hard-core female athletes, not the modern, Western ideal of feminine beauty (at least to typical, stereotyped Straight Men).

 

[Narz]

Do you mean power over themselves ?
Or power over others ?

Power over oneself is a lot of work, i think most people would prefer power over others

That's not an absolute, just a stereotype.

Of course

Don't forget, he was the most filibustered President in U.S. history. The Republican strategy was to make Obama fail, no matter how much it hurt America and Americans, and then blame Obama. They are a party of power-crazed traitors.

True

 

[Narz]

TIL

And what a nice story

https://storiestogrowby.org/story/sir-gawain-the-lady-ragnell/

What BS, nothing a non-mythical lady hates more than a indecisive guy who's always like "no, I don't have a preference, whatever you want to do"

 

[Patine]

They are a party of power-crazed traitors.

Both major parties, are, actually, and should both be gotten rid of in the same election, and meet their long-deserved political demise. The illusion is in the confrontational two-party system (a multi-party system, with a more robust, socio-political dynamic, room for compromise and POST-election coalitions, and REAL choice for the voters would be much more workable and productive) produces the smoke-and-mirrors that only one party are actually full of traitors at any one time, or that the majority of U.S. citizens only feel secure and confident denouncing one major party as such. But, in truth, the whole Duopoly has betrayed and thoroughly the nation and people, and commit NUMEROUS high crimes, day in and day out, while making themselves de facto immune to all indictment, investigation, and trial of any meaning for them, and then rigging all elections against other parties and Independents.

 

[Berzerker]

Men are attracted to beauty, women are attracted to power.

evolution making sure there's plenty of rugrats

 

[amadeus]

“Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.”

— Kissinger

That’s all I had to contribute, really.

Anyway, the coup-spiracy theory that Trump will cling to the Oval Office desk and the military will back him up is pretty silly. @Patine rightly points out that they wouldn’t risk their prestige over protecting one man who loses an election, even if two-thirds of them vote for him.

 

[Berzerker]

This bolded is a lie. You're a liar.

Oh settle down...I've corrected your mistakes many times without calling you a liar. Unless of course you want me to start calling you a liar every time you get something wrong. No benefit of the doubt for you!

Here's what you said:

I am, because its going to screw up the mail-in ballot process, and potentially cause tons of confusion and ballots to be thrown out. If anyone benefits from this its the Republicans, especially Trump, because it not only helps them directly, by increasing the chances that more Democrats ballots get thrown out, but also indirectly, because it increases the opportunities to call the election into question if they don't like the result.

Your reasoning is why Democrats are happy the Greens are off the ballot. They argued allowing the Greens on the ballot would screw up and delay the mail in ballot process, so they're happy for the same reason you're unhappy. Thats why I mistook you for them. So I'll rephrase my question, would you be unhappy if the Greens lost ballot status if it helps Biden?

FTFY

Are they right wing or did your lie detector malfunction?

 

[Patine]

“Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.”

— Kissinger

One should not quote a sociopath on matters of emotion, intimacy, and genuine attraction.

 

[Ajidica]

Anyway, the coup-spiracy theory that Trump will cling to the Oval Office desk and the military will back him up is pretty silly. @Patine rightly points out that they wouldn’t risk their prestige over protecting one man who loses an election, even if two-thirds of them vote for him.

That rests on the assumption that it is clear Trump clearly loses the election. What role, if any, the military will play if the results are messier is far less clear.
Consider the following scenario: Election day occurs amidst a flurry of news reports about people who never received their ballot, surprise shutdowns of polling places due to a lack of poll workers, etc. Results indicate Trump won the election on Election day and he declared himself victor, but the major networks refuse to call the election because of insufficient votes cast. Over the next few days, mail in ballots show slim Biden win. Trump/RNC immediately file suits claiming the 'new' results are invalid for Reason, and Biden/DNC file counter-claims. Legal shenanigans fly all across the map with no resolution by Jan 20. What role would the military play in that situation if Trump, backed by a lame-duck Senate decides he should stay around as "Caretaker" administration.