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Why yes it is, its the first decade of the 20th cen.
I...don't understand the premise of this question.
Alternate History Thread IV: The Sequel
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Why yes it is, its the first decade of the 20th cen.
I...don't understand the premise of this question.
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Mostly because I've disavowed it, since the 60° standard parallel (it should be arccos[2/π]) bugs the hell out of me. And the black borders were never done properly. And the scale is by now wrong.
The above, and they're the generally lazy sorts of folks you have to beat over the head with change for them to accept it.
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@Sym: I still rate it higher than the current standard map .
But nearly everyone hates the Russians! Doesn't make it okay?.
The Peloponnese is a directly controlled military district, established when the German Confederation was worried over Greece's loyalty and Naples is a vassal I forgot to fill in the main bit for
. (Sicily not so much ). Hungary isn't taken over because unlike the non-contigious regions, the germans didn't really want to oppress the realtively developed Hungarians, whilst at the same time not wanting them to be factors in the nationalist politics of the Confederation.
.But nearly everyone hates the Russians! Doesn't make it okay?
.The Peloponnese is a directly controlled military district, established when the German Confederation was worried over Greece's loyalty and Naples is a vassal I forgot to fill in the main bit for
. (Sicily not so much ). Hungary isn't taken over because unlike the non-contigious regions, the germans didn't really want to oppress the realtively developed Hungarians, whilst at the same time not wanting them to be factors in the nationalist politics of the Confederation.Ehhhh...But nearly everyone hates the Russians! Doesn't make it okay?
Okay, so why can this Deutscher Bund vassalize Hungary but not force the Swedes to give up their chunks of Pomerania - did the Swedes pull in some allies or something? Or is that weirdly nationalistically motivated as well? Also, what year is it and what sort of rebel movements are going around all over the world?Disenfrancised said:The Peloponnese is a directly controlled military district, established when the German Confederation was worried over Greece's loyalty and Naples is a vassal I forgot to fill in the main bit for
...and why does Spain control Septimania?
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That South Indian nation with colonies...is that the Chola Empire? I despise the map BTW.
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No. I'm very sorry to hear that
.During the War of Bohemian Succession (~ATL thirty years war) Sweden did somewhat better and then fought over it's gains with Brandenburg for the next half century, and during the Dissolution and Confederation Wars (which occurred basically back to back) a conflict with Brandenburg oddly put Sweden on the Hapsburg side, thus during the Diet of Ausburg the Hapsburg Coalition made good on the bribe by drawing these "Obviously Baltic rather than German" territories outside the new Confederation which reduced the number of protestants, removed possible Brandenburg power base, and gave Sweden a vested interest in keeping the northern Germans down and not supporting uprisings (yes there was a 'Bismark' figure on the Austrian side this time. The territories are swedified (well as much as OTL Scania is) and anti the German confederation, plus everyone had to play nice to fight against Russia.
Its the first decade of the 20th century. As to rebel movements: most of the new world colonies are chafing at the bit, all the Russian ethnic minorities are pretty angry (as you might expect) as are a strain of Russian Secularists, the northern Chinese warlord states are poised to explode, various other minorities around the world are unhappy (Afghans, Cambodians, Burgundians, Turks, various Indians and Malays). There's a good bunch of 'Facists' (though I need to think up an appropriate name due to different origins and somewhat different philosophy) in all the Francophone nations.
Because they took Languedoc from France in a war (before you ask why didn't they take Frances colonies - a) the colonies are bigger and thus would be costly to control, b) Further from the Hispanic power base, and c) it cuts France off the Mediterranean). France want it back obviously - its very much Alsace-Lorraineish.
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I'm okay with it, though.
A-ha!
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War for Bohemian Succession had me thinking about early (pre-1618) 17th century; there are some nice things one could do with that. But possibly it was earlier and had to do with Spain. Actually, that seems more likely now that I thought of it.
Question - did the Incan Empire get revived by some Tupac Amaru II equivalent?
Question - did the Incan Empire get revived by some Tupac Amaru II equivalent?
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That seems obvious, at first, but I don't really see how it would lead to such major changes in Europe so early.
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What Incan empire?
But yes the lack of Incan silver (and a state as dim as Spain to throw it around) significantly weakened the relative power of the Atlantic economies (Portugal less so), particularly the Netherlands. Which obviously had a lot of knock effects.
(I've been reading on this recently and was surprised at just how important it was)
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How exactly did the Mughal Empire come to rule almost all of Central Asia and Tibet? And what is that pink Indian nation?
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A-ha!
There is another clue in that post as to when it occurs
. This is really the fun bit of make alt-history maps isn't 
.That's a long story, but can be summarized in 3 sentences - Less Aurangzebness, more Akbar-like rulers. Weaker atlantic Europeans. A desire to thwart Russia whilst being blocked to the south. The pink is a federation of anti-Mughal states, with internal borders that I need to decide upon - similar to early Switzerland or the Federal Malaysian sultans, with a great deal of internal arguments and conflicts, the name is something I stole off another site and don't have here right now (coffee break at work
)Would that be a weird outcome of the French Wars of Religion, or perhaps even the Hundred Years War? What is France like religiously, anyway, and did we have the same Reformation?There is another clue in that post as to when it occurs
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The hundred years war and wars of Religion weren't effected by the PoD (if they were before it or too separated for changes to reach is still up for guessing though)
The Reformation went broadly the same way (butterfly's probably resulting in different names in different places though). France is Traditional Catholic by heritage, but has become aggressively secularist recently.
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Fine, Peru.
There is another clue in that post as to when it occurs
Can't seem to find it. Unless the Dissolution was meant to be the Devolution, or the Diet of Augsburg was that Diet of Augsburg, which, given your last statement, might actually be it...
EDIT: Actually, no. Can't be, not as an initial PoD. I tentatively shift the focus towards the Swedes, something must've made them stronger early on.
Since you said that butterflies affected the Reformation, then the Wars of Religion sort of had to be after the PoD.
And...hmm. Are the Ming in charge of China or is that someone else who has decided to locate his capital in Nanjing? When did they - the Chinese - take over/vassalize Japan? Would the PoD have anything to do with the way the Yuan collapsed?
