Ask a Furry

[Takhisis]

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I miss Alf (Dang it, Im showing my old age by referancing 80s TV shows )

Alf is the king of the hill.

I remember playing Sonic Genesis. How do you think I feel?

You're 17. By the time you were born I was already playing SEGA... oh wait, I was two. But it's true, anyway. I started out veeery young.

So apparently watching/reading/looking at child porn in furry form is okay.

Not furry. FICTIONAL. Fictional meaning not real and thus there are no victims involved. If something is a fictional work, and if somebody wants to pick it up, more power to them. It's none of my business.

If there are no victims involved, I see nothing wrong with it. I don't personally like it, but if somebody else does... well, better they look at that than actual children. Nobody is being hurt by fictional child pornography, and so I feel that is okay. Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't make it "wrong." Maybe wrong to you, but it certainly shouldn't be wrong to society - i.e. illegal.

Focus on the actual, living, breathing children who get sexually exploited, not those who are drawn on a piece of paper, furry or non. The first has a victim, the latter does not; it's not that difficult.

Those are my thoughts on it all, anyway.

Euuurrghhh... sorry, Tan, but we must disagree on this one. Child porn is always disgusting.

Ah i see, so you're okay with people creating pornographic images of children, simply because it's "fictional" and no one is "hurt" by it. Okay then.

I myself? Yes. I cannot speak for the entire fandom. And it's more part of myself being a libertarian type than a furry.

Don't mix up your libertarianism and/or your homosexuality with the furriness because it can be misleading.

 

[Tani Coyote]

You're 17. By the time you were born I was already playing SEGA... oh wait, I was two. :carzyeye: But it's true, anyway. I started out veeery young.

Well that makes me feel younger, but... doesn't change the fact I feel ollllld. I remember the Never Ending Story like it was yesterday...

Anywho... off-topic(kind of). Unfortunately, CFC isn't a chatroom.

Euuurrghhh... sorry, Tan, but we must disagree on this one. Child porn is always disgusting.

That's fine, nobody needs to agree with me. But you can at least follow my logic, yes?

Don't mix up your libertarianism and/or your homosexuality with the furriness because it can be misleading.

Indeed, that's why I started a separate thread for this issue... this thread is about furries and their fandom, not what constitutes child pornography.

 

[Traitorfish]

Ah i see if i was to draw a man engaging in buggery with a horse, it woudn't be beastality because it isnt real. Great logic.

Well, of course it's not, anymore than a slasher film is murder. It is a fictional depiction of such a thing, which, while it may be in itself morally reprehensible- it would be unwise to draw absolutes- is distinct.

Besides, if you really want to argue your point, at least attempt to construct an argument. Sarcasm and inexplicable quotation marks just make you look like a morally panicked reactionary. TFox has described his position fairly thoroughly, and with some eloquence. You could at least deign to grant him the same honour.

 

[GenMarshall]

Are there any other furries lurking around CFC? Don't worry, we wont hurt you

(Somehow I am tempted to create some sort of Furry-non-Furry alliance group thingy or Friends of Furries group)

 

[Zack]

Since you like Sonic, does that cause you to prefer Sonic over other fast food restaurants? Or does it not mean diddly squat to you?

 

[useless]

ah just like masturbating to a drawing a child is, according to tanciusfox. nope your not a pedopile in any way sir

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[Traitorfish]

Is it just me, or has "Ask a Furry" been rather widely misinterpreted as "Act Like a Self-Righteous, Unreasonable Jerk, Even Though Nobody Asked You To and We All Wish You Would Stop"? Easy mistake to make, I suppose.

Really, if you have something to say, just say it, ferchrissake. Don't dance around with this half-arsed sarcasm. Make an assertion, back it up with an argument, act a like an adult. Not this frankly embarrassing nonsense which you all seem to insist upon.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Besides, if you really want to argue your point, at least attempt to construct an argument. Sarcasm and inexplicable quotation marks just make you look like a morally panicked reactionary. TFox has described his position fairly thoroughly, and with some eloquence. You could at least deign to grant him the same honour.

I wouldn't really bother trying with some people, Traitorfish(I almost called you TF there... is TF like the most common abbreviation for names? ThunderFall, TraitorFish, TaniciusFox, etc.)... if they haven't stopped, they won't.

That's why I don't report most of the trolling posts, unless the poster persists.

But, in good news, at least most people here have been reasonable and have asked genuine questions, rather than ones that are ALWAYS sexually-tinged.

Are there any other furries lurking around CFC? Don't worry, we wont hurt you

So far Chuchki Husky has been the only one(as confirmed by his earlier post in the thread).

I know having an animal name at the end of your username is generally a trait associated with furries... there are quite a few of those... The pattern goes "given name of fursona" + "species of fursona". Example: Tanicius(name) + Fox(fursona).. it's also common in the Sonic fandom however, to have a normal name and then put "Hedgie" at the end of it. I wouldn't be surprised if many of those fans were in fact furries, however. As I said, it ultimately comes down to self-identification as part of the fandom.

Some posters here have a certain animal as their avatars constantly. They may or may not be furries.

(I'm just waiting for somebody to twist that into accusing the conservatives with eagle avatars as being furries. )

(Somehow I am tempted to create some sort of Furry-non-Furry alliance group thingy or Friends of Furries group)

I would endorse this. Even if I bet it'd be trollbait, since there's a fairly large amount of troll bandwagoners here... when I linked to my Youtube, I got like 50 hits from CFC... and a huge amount of trolls as well.

I'm pretty sure there was a correlation.

But yes, a very solid-sounding idea, CivG. As this is only the internet(where we can all be as open as we want due to remaining anonymous), I'm sure it'd be easy to rally the furs of CFC... and then those who support the furs rather than trolling them. CFC is usually openminded(even if a bit immature at times), so I'm sure there are plenty of allies.

The trolls seem numerous, but I think it's really just a case of them being like rabid Shadow fangirls: there's only a few, but they're so loudmouthed you'd assume there was a horde.

Since you like Sonic, does that cause you to prefer Sonic over other fast food restaurants? Or does it not mean diddly squat to you?

It doesn't mean anything to me. However, I have said I wished Sega would partner with Sonic to do more advertising through them. I mean, Sonic even has blue and yellow colors! (Sonic and Tails) Nothing helps marketing quite like food!

I remember the days of Sonic-themed macaroni and cheese...

Is it just me, or has "Ask a Furry" been rather widely misinterpreted as "Act Like a Self-Righteous, Unreasonable Jerk, Even Though Nobody Asked You To and We All Wish You Would Stop"? Easy mistake to make, I suppose.

Even better is the CFCer trend of actually not reading the thread continues with many people... hence the constant string of sexual comments... despite me saying numerous times being a furry has NOTHING to do with being a pervert, all throughout this thread. There are just perverts who happen to be furries.

The furry porn is just a natural extension of one's inherent sexuality: if you're a pervert in real life, chances are you'll be one on the internet too.

Really, if you have something to say, just say it, ferchrissake. Don't dance around with this half-arsed sarcasm. Make an assertion, back it up with an argument, act a like an adult. Not this frankly embarrassing nonsense which you all seem to insist upon.

I think this would be a good idea; I started this thread to engage with reasonable people, not feed the trolls.

OT has a reputation of being increasingly immature, however, so... I unfortunately can't count on this coming true.

 

[Traitorfish]

(I almost called you TF there... is TF like the most common abbreviation for names? ThunderFall, TraitorFish, TaniciusFox, etc.)

Heh, yeah. We should form a club or something.

 

[Takhisis]

Tafhisis joining up.

 

[Kraznaya]

What do you think of Jay Naylor?

 

[bob bobato]

If there are no victims involved, I see nothing wrong with it. I don't personally like it, but if somebody else does... well, better they look at that than actual children. Nobody is being hurt by fictional child pornography, and so I feel that is okay. Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't make it "wrong." Maybe wrong to you, but it certainly shouldn't be wrong to society - i.e. illegal.

Focus on the actual, living, breathing children who get sexually exploited, not those who are drawn on a piece of paper, furry or non. The first has a victim, the latter does not; it's not that difficult.

That's a bit of stretch. Child molestation isn't a matter of a "cup of tea", it's wrong, point finale.
It doesn't matter if if it's fictional or not. I personally think that it should be illegal to create or consume "artistic" representations of a behaviour that cannot be allowed in the real world, if it it presents it in a positive light (murder in video games don't count because it has a different context- the player is usually in a warzone or surrounded by enemies. They're rarely killing for fun (which would be wrong)). Pedophiles should not be allowed to indulge their inclination in any form, they should not be allowed to accept it in any way. If they accept their urges, then they'll be more likely to act on them.

 

[Aegis]

bobato,

How can it be a crime if the "victims" do not exist?

 

[Tani Coyote]

What do you think of Jay Naylor?

*did some quick research of him on WikiFur*

He's okay, I guess? WikiFur really doesn't give me much to love or hate him for...

Even if a right-wing furry seems kind of odd.

That's a bit of stretch. Child molestation isn't a matter of a "cup of tea", it's wrong, point finale.
It doesn't matter if if it's fictional or not. I personally think that it should be illegal to create or consume "artistic" representations of a behaviour that cannot be allowed in the real world, if it it presents it in a positive light (murder in video games don't count because it has a different context- the player is usually in a warzone or surrounded by enemies. They're rarely killing for fun (which would be wrong)). Pedophiles should not be allowed to indulge their inclination in any form, they should not be allowed to accept it in any way. If they accept their urges, then they'll be more likely to act on them.

bobato,

How can it be a crime if the "victims" do not exist?

As interesting as this discussion would be, please redirect it to:

The thread on whether shota and cub art qualify as child porn. This thread is for discussing furries, not exactly what qualifies as child pornography.

 

[bob bobato]

bobato,

How can it be a crime if the "victims" do not exist?

The victims could potentially exist. As I said, if pedophiles accept their inclination, then they'll be more likely to act on it (as a group, I mean).
And crimes don't necessarily need victims, advocating a crime is enough. If I made a website that advocated mass-murder, I would be persecuted, even if I had no plans to commit murder. and if I drew sexually suggestive pictures of children, it would be pedophilia- because I would then be viewing these children as an object of sexual desire.

 

[Traitorfish]

@Bob Bobato

I've replied in the appropriate thread, if you care to read.

 

[Abaddon]

From what age did the fetish become realised?

 

[Takhisis]

Dude, two-month old necra.

 

[GenMarshall]

From what age did the fetish become realised?

My money is on Taniciusfox not answering that question

 

[Birdjaguar]

That's a bit of stretch. Child molestation isn't a matter of a "cup of tea", it's wrong, point finale.
It doesn't matter if if it's fictional or not. I personally think that it should be illegal to create or consume "artistic" representations of a behaviour that cannot be allowed in the real world, if it it presents it in a positive light (murder in video games don't count because it has a different context- the player is usually in a warzone or surrounded by enemies. They're rarely killing for fun (which would be wrong)). Pedophiles should not be allowed to indulge their inclination in any form, they should not be allowed to accept it in any way. If they accept their urges, then they'll be more likely to act on them.

As interesting as this discussion would be, please redirect it to:

The thread on whether shota and cub art qualify as child porn. This thread is for discussing furries, not exactly what qualifies as child pornography.

The victims could potentially exist. As I said, if pedophiles accept their inclination, then they'll be more likely to act on it (as a group, I mean).
And crimes don't necessarily need victims, advocating a crime is enough. If I made a website that advocated mass-murder, I would be persecuted, even if I had no plans to commit murder. and if I drew sexually suggestive pictures of children, it would be pedophilia- because I would then be viewing these children as an object of sexual desire.

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