BBC changing history

[Hrothbern]

I have not studied it in detail. I think the basic idea is that you some neanderthal DNA seguences, some denisovan DNA seguences and modern human DNA from all over the world. Europeans have some of the neanderthal, east asians have some of the denisovan and africans have neither. Homo Sapiens Sapiens evolved in africa, some stayed and became africans, some left, entered europe and bred with neanderthals and became europeans and some entered east asia, bred with denisovans and became east asians.

Besides the Neandertal and Denisovan there is a third ancient hominin that interbred with Homo Sapiens.
Sub-Saharan Homo Sapiens has some genes from a sub-Sahara hominin called the Ghost species.
see also: http://www.buffalo.edu/news/releases/2017/07/028.html

 

[Bugfatty300]

Cringy alt-right neckbeards are very sensitive about their Roman heritage.

 

[Hrothbern]

Cringy alt-right neckbeards are very sensitive about their Roman heritage.

Have alt-right neckbeards the cultural level to be able to play the fiddle ?

 

[Arakhor]

Not the fiddle had been invented yet then, of course.

 

[Bugfatty300]

Have alt-right neckbeards the cultural level to be able to play the fiddle ?

I doubt it. Which reminds me that people shouldn't mention the "fiddle was invented centuries later by asians" part to them either. Stuff like that is far too nuanced for their delicate perceptions of history.

 

[Borachio]

So if Nero wasn't playing the violin what was he fiddling with?

Eh? Answer me that.

Because I have it on very good authority that he was most definitely fiddling.

 

[bernie14]

....If you look at the text below, the article is based on DNA from 4 skeletons out of 20,000 available this multi-ethnic ancient London.
But not only that.... they picked out 1 of those 4 skeletons because the skeleton showed already likely sub-sahara skeleton characteristics !
huh.......
And look who said that: "like many people living in the Capital today, she had travelled a long distance to get in London".... the BBC !
huh....

not one, at least two...."The analysis showed that Mansell Street man was over 45 years old with very dark brown hair and brown eyes. His mitochondrial DNA line was from North Africa and his remains show African traits as well". and what remarkably effective techniques were used to determine that the remains were african?.....the physical anthropology techniques developed by the 18th century racists? HAHAHAHA......c'mon people, read the the title to that article, what in insinuates, how the "evidence" is used....at best, it is not objective..we can even say disingenuous...how far then from misleading....malicious??? frankly, I have no issues with an assimilation campaign, I think a melting pot is far superior to a mosaic.

....Why were our African ancestors evolving into us when our out-of-Africa relatives didn't?

evolutionary timing, seems the out of africans found some nice niche where they were able to survive without much change....till they ran into us that is....and were

 

[Ajidica]

That makes im an "edgelord"? Okay maybe, I know nothing about edgelords, maybe you do, *shrug*

Well, with the latest rant saying the BBC is trying to undermine the white race, the OP is looking less like an edgelord and more like he is ready to break out the sheets.

Edgelords are the people who would leap to the defense of the bus decorated to hate on transgender people with a vigor far in excess of what the situation would seem to call for.

 

[W|M]

I'm pretty sure the situation calls for no defences of transphobic buses

 

[sophie]

While Romans obviously though they were the best people in the universe, i dont think they put much attention to race. They gave roman citizenship to anyone who behaved nicely, from Pictland to Nubia, from Hispania to Germania and equally enslaved and killed whoever behaved badly without any racial consideration.

Uh. No. They definitely did not do that. Roman writers and commentators generally paid little attention to skin color, big surprise for a hegemon centered in Southern Europe whose cultural influence extended from Northern Europe to Northern Africa and East to Mesopotamia. However one thing Romans really really cared about was Romanitas - how Roman you were, which was a factor both of citizenship status, as well as the way you dressed, they way you comported yourself, whether or not you spoke the right kind of Latin - that sort of thing.

The Romans were really cagey about who they allowed to hold citizenship, and they generally only handed it out to select groups when the Kingdom/Republic/Empire was in a time of serious crisis and needed allies desperately. It was only with the Edict of Caracalla in 212 (itself likely done to increase the taxable population in the Empire) that full citizenship was granted to all freedmen living within the Roman borders. Before that it was basically just Italians and military veterans who got to hold the varying degrees of citizenship privileges.

 

[Bugfatty300]

his remains show African traits as well". and what remarkably effective techniques were used to determine that the remains were african?.....the physical anthropology techniques developed by the 18th century racists? HAHAHAHA

Yep. Pretty much. It's also widely used in modern forensic criminology to identify cold case victims. A few years ago some university students in Mexico found some skeletons from an 1840s mass war grave that were more "European" than typical Mexican soldiers of the era. It was assumed they could US soldiers so the bones were given to a US university who used isotope analysis of their teeth to confirme that they were all indeed from the American midwest IIRC.

 

[Lexicus]

And it took a long time and a lot of fighting including at least one massive war for the Italians to get citizenship.

 

[Kyriakos]

FWIW, the Bbc is not some bastion of progressiveness. It is (if anything) a very pro-government (pro-Tory for the last years, and before that it was Blair, who wasn't that far from a tory either) institution, having a plethora of scandals (an ongoing one is about unfairly low pay to female employees) including pedophilia by main tv personalities it used in the near past.
It would at least make one sympathetic if it could be argued the Bbc runs these programs out of honest will to help anyone, but it is entirely unrealistic to think it does.

For a lol, you can't seriously term as progressive a channel whose main news-talk host is the following thing from the swamp:

He belongs in the Benny Hill show (another one who started in the Bbc )

 

[Arakhor]

The 70s is not the near past.

 

[Kyriakos]

The 70s is not the near past.

All i am saying is, fool me once... Or:

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I doubt a Roman commander would marry a Brit, they share an island with barbarians

Right, because no soldier from a conquering nation has ever, in the history of humankind, intermarried with the natives of the land being conquered.

So if Nero wasn't playing the violin what was he fiddling with?

I'm going to charitably assume that this is a serious question about music, and answer it.

Nero played the lyre, and fancied himself a gifted musician. He was at a performing arts competition at the time the Great Fire broke out (naturally everyone was instructed to let him win).

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The 70s is not the near past.

Depends on what and which amount of drugs I too ... I mean someone has taken.

But it's an ironic comment in a thread about historical accuracy.

I'm going to charitably assume that this is a serious question about music, and answer it.

Nero played the lyre, and fancied himself a gifted musician. He was at a performing arts competition at the time the Great Fire broke out (naturally everyone was instructed to let him win).

Aww, you just beat me to displaying my QI-founded wisdom

edit: Which is also BBC!

 

[Arakhor]

He was also reportedly genuinely concerned with having the fire put out, even if it did lend itself to scapegoating undesirables later on.

 

[Kyriakos]

If only the Bbc was in Holland, with that national icon Blackface helper of Santa Clause, right?

 

[Hrothbern]

I'm going to charitably assume that this is a serious question about music, and answer it.
Nero played the lyre, and fancied himself a gifted musician. He was at a performing arts competition at the time the Great Fire broke out (naturally everyone was instructed to let him win).

I mentioned the fiddle as first, because I found that apocryphal story befitting all the fake news of alt-right

Right, because no soldier from a conquering nation has ever, in the history of humankind, intermarried with the natives of the land being conquered.

yes, they must have intermarried, but perhaps many also followed their Legion when placed in another area of the Roman empire.
The famous IX Legion, that "disappeared" in Britain, could also have been moved. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legio_IX_Hispana
"Several inscriptions attesting IX Hispana have been found in the site of the legionary fortress on the lower Rhine river at Noviomagus Batavorum (Nijmegen, Netherlands). These include some tile-stamps (dated 104-20); and a silver-plated bronze pendant, found in the 1990s, that was part of a phalera (military medal), with "LEG HISP IX" inscribed on the reverse"

Also to consider is that besides the 16,000 Legionairies, there were 35,000-40,000 auxiliaries that were not Roman citizens, and could very well come from nearby areas and would not necessarily show up as Roman or Mediterraneum DNA.