Belarus riots

[Dragon1965]

But it was Christmas when it happened.

Consider it a Christmas gift for the people of Romania

 

[Takhisis]

I'm pretty Austria did just that to Russia and Prussia in the "Three Emperors' League," age during the Revolutions of 1848. And, at the time, it actually worked as a tactic...

But at least not one of the three countries was pretending to be anything other than an absolutist monarchy.

 

[Crezth]

Another bourgeois democratic color revolution for clueless western liberals to feel cathartic about.

 

[Patine]

Another bourgeois democratic color revolution for clueless western liberals to feel cathartic about.

Yes, we all already know of your deconstructionist, fatalist, nihilistic, edgelord, Frankfurt school viewpoints and using them to conedescendingly look down on anyone's desire for betterment in the world...

 

[innonimatu]

I've been mostly abstaining from opinion on this because I know little of Belarus. But I suspect that Craig Murray's assessment on the situation there is reasonably informed and correct.

 

[red_elk]

There was a pro-Lukashenko rally today in Minsk, with about 5-10 thousands people attending.

Also, Lukashenko released 32 Russian PMC contractors arrested before elections. They had a transit flight to Venezuela but were arrested in Belarus and blamed in organizing a coup. Ukraine was trying to extradite them. Strange story. Looks like Lukashenko was holding them as hostages for election time, threatening extradition to Ukraine.

 

[Takhisis]

‘Prop up my dictatorship and fake election results or else I won't let these guys from your country go and do the same thing in another’.

 

[Zardnaar]

Another bourgeois democratic color revolution for clueless western liberals to feel cathartic about.

Aren't you the one pro people's revolution?

Are you disputing that Lukashenko isn't a corrupt authoritarian dictator?

 

[Patine]

Aren't you the one pro people's revolution?

Are you disputing that Lukashenko isn't a corrupt authoritarian dictator?

I believe @Crezth is not exactly forthcoming or consistent, and certainly not honest, about their viewpoints on things...

 

[Takhisis]

Or possibly sarcastic, with Poe's Law in operation.

 

[Zardnaar]

I believe @Crezth is not exactly forthcoming or consistent, and certainly not honest, about their viewpoints on things...

Na just a hardcore communust just who will overlook the crimes of such regimes because USA bad.

Americas deeply flawed but there's plenty if worse countries.

 

[Yeekim]

Another bourgeois democratic color revolution for clueless western liberals to feel cathartic about.

At least Belorussians behave like civilized people, not like animals.
Picture of protests below:

 

[Crezth]

Aren't you the one pro people's revolution?

Are you disputing that Lukashenko isn't a corrupt authoritarian dictator?

He is a dictator, the revolution is not a people’s revolution however just because some people declare it is.

 

[Zardnaar]

He is a dictator, the revolution is not a people’s revolution however just because some people declare it is.

That's a lot of people in the streets.

IDK if you remember the Baltic States doing it 30 odd years ago.

 

[Crezth]

That's a lot of people in the streets.

IDK if you remember the Baltic States doing it 30 odd years ago.

Lot of people in the American streets too, I distinctly remember you saying “revolution seems too harsh.”

 

[Zardnaar]

Lot of people in the American streets too, I distinctly remember you saying “revolution seems too harsh.”

Generally they should be reasonably peaceful vs civil war.

USA ones were BLMnot let's get rid of the government although I'm sure there were a few of them.

But yeah if protests in USA hit critical mass to change the system and the blood shed is minimal why not?

As long as whatever replaced it doesn't have to resort to force to impose their views.

Main reason I'm opposed to revolutions generally is it often leads to civil war where the winners usually use force to impose their views and often make things worse.

And as a last resort.

 

[Takhisis]

At least Belorussians behave like civilized people, not like animals.
Picture of protests below:
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Socks with sandals detected: 0.

He is a dictator, the revolution is not a people’s revolution however just because some people declare it is.

Interesting take. The thing is what can come of this. Do you think it stands a chance of normalisation?

 

[red_elk]

Belarus should join Russia.
We have a lot of freedom. And cookies.

 

[cardgame]

At least Belorussians behave like civilized people, not like animals.
Picture of protests below:
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I don't get it

 

[Zardnaar]

Belarus should join Russia.
We have a lot of freedom. And cookies.

Australasian cookies pretty good, US not to bad.