Is it also in Greece that you need two rounds of votes with elections in between to ensure that the people have their say ?
Brexit Thread V - The Final Countdown?!?
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Is it also in Greece that you need two rounds of votes with elections in between to ensure that the people have their say ?
Afaik that's pretty common; Estonia has the same system.
But yeah, UK has no constitution.
Our Constitution is in a constant change adapting to the ever changing civilisation we are.
More a kind of process of small steps and where because of internal consistency the step was bigger, the period of preparation is also bigger.
Small step changes I estimate on average at about 1 per year (needing typically 10-15 years fron the prep committee to the final second round in both chambers).
And the last big one since WW2 was in 1983. Big because of the internal consistency with so many articles.
It started as a needed modernisation after WW2 and because of the cultural changes of the 60ies, the wave of various emancipations in the 70ies, and their internal interrelations, it took until 1983 before the package finally passed. The most important change was putting the fundamental rights of social living standards into the Constitution.
Will be a Constantinople thick wall to breach.
Just in time before the neo-liberal started slowly to gain ground.
Will be a Constantinople thick wall to breach.
So it will either take urban's neoterism or an ex ally with naval supremacy. Both currently going on
So it will either take urban's neoterism or an ex ally with naval supremacy. Both currently going on
Walls buy time for organising your defense (when surprise attacked) and force the opponents in general to a more expensive siege.
No more, no less.
Smugness behind thick walls brings you nowhere.
Although singing about heroic deeds of the past 60ies-70ies grassroot movements who pressed those developments still feels good
There are a lot of similarities with today.
Although as older grandpa with too many stories about that past, I am biased towards many concerns of today... too much complaining spectators caught up in consuming
In them days we had smug arrogant elites that applied the full force of their official power, their media, infiltrated our movements everywhere with their intelligence agents, a fake news level towards us much higher than now and we mostly stencil machines and beer.... and yet we emerged... and yet we won so much ground
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So our waiting will be over then?
Cheetah
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Depends on what you are waiting for. If the UK ends up remaining or taking May's Withdrawal deal, then I expect Brexit to lose importance and relevance in the international news stream, if not in the UK itself.
A no-deal, however, will put Brexit front and center at least until the end of the summer, as all the problems move from «possible» to «happening right now!».
I highlighted two terms in your post. See if you can spot the issue.
Though I agree that the supply of food and medicines, people's homes and jobs, communication, transportation, and the transfer of capital are all rather more important than policing. Still not anything good.
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I am unclear how access to EU databases enables or prevents Cressida Dick from shooting Brazilian electricians.
The UK managed quite happily for 370 years (1603 to 1973) without access to EU databases.
The European arrest warrant has lead to the costly embarassment of laying siege to the Ecuadorian embassy for Julian Paul Assange.
The priority should be about arresting violent criminals that are still in the UK, not worrying about those who have run away.
The UK managed quite happily for 370 years (1603 to 1973) without access to EU databases.
The European arrest warrant has lead to the costly embarassment of laying siege to the Ecuadorian embassy for Julian Paul Assange.
The priority should be about arresting violent criminals that are still in the UK, not worrying about those who have run away.
Could you state that in a more hyperbolic fashion? I'll wait.
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And a «no deal» will mean that the UK will have no deals, no agreements, in all the places where the EU agreements used to apply.
The May deal is only a divorce deal and is vague on the future EU relation. It protects the soft Irish border and allows for a semi-membership of the UK of 2-4 years to get a real deal.
=> In fact nothing really happens !!!
If the UK is going to burn again all those years with political infighting or taking a break, nothing really happens economically. Except waning trust of domestic business and big investors.
=> Could still go in the direction of a standard comprehensive FTA (like with Canada) with the UK free to strike its own FTA deals with other countries
=> or a very close relationship with the EU. Almost like being member of the EU with very many opt outs including as consequence of the Brexit no voting right.
I think the May deal will continue the Brexit process with another 2-4 years. And as long as that final choice in direction has not been made it will be a huge domestic political fight.
The no-deal is more clear.
But the chaos and disruptions will be used by the Remainers to push for a referendum on Rejoin. Whether that dies out or will happen, will very much depend on the severity of the impact of the no-deal exit.
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Or better worded: "the by the public felt impact of no-deal Brexit".
Which means that the Brexit fight continues by the reports on economical changes. Some newsmedia will focus on damage and some on hope.
Here a Politico article on the US perspective
https://www.politico.eu/article/ame...mp-theresa-may-us-uk-europe-financial-system/
and a NYT podcast episode
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/11/podcasts/the-daily/brexit-deal-theresa-may.html
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Furthermore, your grasp of history is dubious. 1603 was the beginning of the personal union between England and Scotland, but Great Britain wasn't formed until 1707 and the United Kingdom (of GB & I) not until 1801. Not only that, but do you seriously think that the court of James VI & I refused to use espionage knowledge from Europe? Robert Cecil's intelligence network absolutely did not stop at Dover.
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Exactly.
I'm sure it will bubble up from time to time, but the urgency of the negotiations, and the possibility of a «no deal», will be gone.
EnglishEdward
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Not going to be rabbit holed down a discussion of the formalisation of the formation of the UK and its predecessors' names.
And Robert Cecil didn't need to propose to surrender to the pope to obtain information from the continent.
And Robert Cecil didn't need to propose to surrender to the pope to obtain information from the continent.
Metropolitan police commissioner says crashing out of the EU without an agreement would mean having to replace certain structures /.../ which could threaten the police’s crime-fighting capability.
> "scaremongering about police stuff (sic) ever happening".
I guess Christmas is over.
EDIT: Also, there are a whole lot of things people did without in 1603.
I'm sure we'll find out more soon
> "scaremongering about police stuff (sic) ever happening".
I guess Christmas is over.
EDIT: Also, there are a whole lot of things people did without in 1603.
I'm sure we'll find out more soon
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