Brexit Thread VIII: Taking a penalty kick-ing

[Takhisis]

One ship responsible for 1/12 of chip shop cod in the UK.

The important thing is whether it has good wi-fi or not in this age of working from home.

 

[Sofista]

When they say "Cooking will kill the parasites" I wonder what they mean? Cooking fish for me is not synonymous with getting it hot all the way through.

This says: "Anisakid larvae can be easily killed by adequate cooking at temperatures > 60°C". I do not always get it to 60°C all the way through.

Yep. We all want our fish (and meat) to be juicy. And overcooking it just turns them into shoe soles.

 

[Takhisis]

^This is about Britain, so fish is meant to be fried in batter and meat is meant to be bunged in an oven.

Thousands march through London in biggest ‘kill the bill’ protest yet
Critics of the police, crime, sentencing and courts bill say it would curb the right to protest

Thousands of protesters have marched through central London against the new police, crime, sentencing and courts bill, in the biggest protest under the “kill the bill” banner to have taken place so far.

Spoiler :

After gathering in Trafalgar Square from midday, protesters marched past Buckingham Palace then through Victoria, past the Department for Education and the Home Office, and finally across the river to Vauxhall Gardens.

A number of social movements had united to protest against the bill, which critics say would place significant curbs on freedom of speech and assembly, by giving police powers to curb protests, among other measures.

Police took a relaxed approach to the demonstration, walking along with protesters but apparently making no arrests.

Pragna Patel, director of Southall Black Sisters, said: “The bill represents a massive assault on civil liberties and it’s part of a wider trend on the part of the government to shut down free speech, shut down protest, shut down dissenting voices. In a sense it’s an attack on a fundamental democratic value, which is the right to raise our voice in criticism, in protest, in dissent.

“We are really, really alarmed by the government’s thrust towards authoritarianism. This represents one in a long line of draconian laws which the government is bringing in which will impact on our fundamental rights.”

The leftwing journalist and writer, Paul Mason, was among those marching with protesters down the Mall. He said: “First of all, it’s May Day and everywhere else in the world working people celebrate May Day by protesting.

“Secondly, the wider point is that there is a new generation of people who really don’t give a horsehocky about so-called official politics, especially the way Labour is going, stepping away from all the radical movements of last summer and this spring. I think that right now this movement – Sisters Uncut, Black Lives Matter, the renters movement and the rest – exists in a political vacuum.

“But I remember 10 years ago those movements were the movements from which the huge global squares occupations came. And there’s only one place to be if you are a socialist, if you are a leftist or an anticapitalist, and that’s with them.”

A Home Office spokesman said: “The right to protest is a cornerstone of our democracy, but over recent years we have seen an increase in the use of disruptive and dangerous tactics.

“It is totally unacceptable to smash up private property, block emergency vehicles and prevent the printing press from distributing newspapers. The government will not stand by as the rights and freedoms of individuals, businesses and communities are trampled upon by a minority.

“These new measures will not stop people from carrying out their civic right to protest and be heard, but will prevent large scale disruption – enabling the silent majority to get on with their lives.”

Now this might seem repetitive, but getting out from under EU regulations that might have put a stop to this (even if only to conform to political correctness standards, cynics would say) was one of the real goals of Brexit: unlimited power for the oligarchy loosely corporatised around the Conservative and Unionist Party of the United Kingdom. Which is really sodding up the part about Unionism.
All the crap about taxation… well, yes, the UK also wanted to preserve its Thatcherite business model as a global money launderer (see, e.g., the Premier League and the -defunct?- SuperLeague).

 

[really]

Well the super league included Spain and Italy, not 100% brexit related.

 

[Takhisis]

Are you saying that that is why Boris Johnson publicly and vehemently opposed it for all so many hours of its duration?

 

[Samson]

Barnier has written a book. I cannot find it ATM, but according to the beeb he has some choice words about those sitting across from him:

BoJo

"advancing like a bulldozer" - determined to flatten opposition​

Brexiteers

"Bring in Madness, banish Reason!"​

Nigel Farage

Farage, in private, is as cordial and gentle as he can be a violent demagogue in public.​

Lord Frost

turns up 45 minutes late for lunch
informs him in a "somewhat arrogant tone" that all the important stuff in their negotiations will be dealt with by the prime minister and the President of the EC
Lord Frost badly advised Prime Minister Johnson on the dynamic of the European Council and "to save face, he therefore creates drama" by temporarily walking away from the negotiation table​

Theresa May

Lancaster House speech: "reveal nothing less than all of her red lines, even though we have not started negotiating"​

Tabloid press

a beast he clearly monitors with varying degrees of bemusement, shock and disappointment
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And the most shocking one:

Breakfast

I've always preferred English breakfast, with fried eggs, to French croissants​

 

[Takhisis]

I've always preferred English breakfast, with fried eggs, to French croissants

I can just hear Louis de Funès' Harpagon shouting ‘Traître!!!’.

 

[Angst]

so uh what's the current status of this charade

 

[really]

The UK is trying to recreate the glory days of the cod wars by sending gun boats to Jersey.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57003069

 

[GinandTonic]

The UK is trying to recreate the glory days of the cod wars by sending gun boats to Jersey.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57003069

Thats a very unfair characterization. The French threatened to cut off the islands' electricity unless the fishing deal was rewritten. You know, the one everyone told the Brits they were morons for being upset about. The French then decided to blockade the port with 30 trawlers until their demands were met. The Brits sent two fisheries protection ships to monitor the situation.

The French are behaving appallingly. Trying to starve islands into rewriting the terms of a treaty they signed is just not cricket.

The French fishermen, The Daily Fail and The Express are all of a piece and deserve each other.

 

[Gorbles]

If the French are the ones blockading, then why (as per the BBC article), are both French and Jersey vessels described as blocking the port?

About 60 French and Jersey boats are blocking the island's St Helier port, with a freight vessel unable to leave.

 

[Samson]

If the French are the ones blockading, then why (as per the BBC article), are both French and Jersey vessels described as blocking the port?

I think some Jersey vessels are supporting the French.

It sounds like the Jersey authorities did a last minute switch, from requiring vessels to show proof of fishing something for 10 days to fishing specific species for 20 or 30 days. I think there is plenty of criticism available for both sides.

 

[Arakhor]

The French threatened to cut off the islands' electricity unless the fishing deal was rewritten. You know, the one everyone told the Brits they were morons for being upset about.

Uh, what? I don't recall anyone (other than perhaps the idiots in Westminster) being called a moron for our govt signing the Brexit deal. I do recall lots people being called losers though, though that was mostly from the people who thought that they winning at the time.

 

[GinandTonic]

If the French are the ones blockading, then why (as per the BBC article), are both French and Jersey vessels described as blocking the port?

There is a limit to the number of days the waters can be fished. They apply to everyone. For what it's worth 41 of 70 French trawlers were issued licences.

Uh, what? I don't recall anyone (other than perhaps the idiots in Westminster) being called a moron for our govt signing the Brexit deal. I do recall lots people being called losers though, though that was mostly from the people who thought that they winning at the time.

I've certainly called the fishermen and unionists who voted for Brexit morons for being surprised and unset about the result of their vote.

 

[really]

I wasn't being fair, I just find it bananas that as a direct result of the poor implementation of Brexit, warships are being deployed.

 

[Arakhor]

I've certainly called the fishermen and unionists who voted for Brexit morons for being surprised and unset about the result of their vote.

Well, yes, they should have known better, but if you really want to believe that things will be better in the land of milk and honey, whilst politicians, demagogues and half the media are busy selling you that dream for years, you're not the only one at fault.

I also notice that we're long past being in need of a new thread. @GinandTonic, you haven't done it yet, so would you like to do the honours?

 

[Samson]

Well, yes, they should have known better, but if you really want to believe that things will be better in the land of milk and honey, whilst politicians, demagogues and half the media are busy selling you that dream for years, you're not the only one at fault.

True. However, if you are willing to put your future in the truthfulness of BoJo, Farage and the daily hate then you have to wonder how one can have the rationality to run a fishing operation.

 

[Arakhor]

People make poor life decisions every day. Usually, though, they don't have as great as an impact as Brexit.

 

[GinandTonic]

I also notice that we're long past being in need of a new thread. @GinandTonic, you haven't done it yet, so would you like to do the honours?

Just off to vote (with my own pencil, thanks to Samson) and then I've got to work for a bit. Anyone want to do the honours?

 

[Arakhor]

I'll do it then.

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