Conservative base and Palin ?

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With the so called conservative base so much in thrall of Palin I am curious how many would follow her if she decided to bail from the Republican party and form a party based on old testament type values.
How many Republican supporters who post here would follow her out of the Republican party ?

The term America's Maggie Thatcher, it seems a lot of Palin supporters are confused, Thatcher would never have run around ranting she was a victim.
Of course Palin would be rather out of place in one of Thatchers cabinets, would not pass the class test used by the Tories.
 
Oh man that would rock.

Anyone comparing Palin to Thatcher makes an idiotic comparison.
 
With the so called conservative base so much in thrall of Palin I am curious how many would follow her if she decided to bail from the Republican party and form a party based on old testament type values.
How many Republican supporters who post here would follow her out of the Republican party ?

:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

If she leaves the party, I think her only chance would be to start a 'thinktank' or join a similiar existing one. But really, she's a spokemodel/country girl, not a policy maker.
 
Thatcher had her good points and bad. But she was never stupid or weak. So you can't compare Palin to her.
 
:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

If she leaves the party, I think her only chance would be to start a 'thinktank' or join a similiar existing one. But really, she's a spokemodel/country girl, not a policy maker.

Too bad her thinktank would be empty!



On account of how dumb she is...
 
I've always wondered the basis upon which people call Palin dumb, stupid or weak.

...That title goes to Nancy Pelosi, hands down.
 
I've always wondered the basis upon which people call Palin dumb, stupid or weak.

She plays to that crowd, I'm sure she would consider it a compliment.

I don't think she is actually "stupid" and she was probably an ok governor, but I want her as far away from the Whitehouse as humanly possible. Preferably somewhere so remote she can see Russia from her house.
 
I've always wondered the basis upon which people call Palin dumb, stupid or weak.

...That title goes to Nancy Pelosi, hands down.

Weak? We're talking about Nancy Pelosi? The woman that makes grown man cry, and congressmen hide? Same one that's been riding roughshod over a Republican minority that's absolutely axe crazy? (Seriously, I wouldn't let a a psychiatrist near Michelle Bachmann without a strait jacket and a taser)

Sarah Palin couldn't cut it as governor of Alaska, and couldn't take a couple months of half-hearted poking from the media. You may not like Pelosi, but no one with half a brain calls her weak, or stupid for that matter. Stupid people don't get a climate change bill through the House.
 
Weak? We're talking about Nancy Pelosi? The woman that makes grown man cry, and congressmen hide? Same one that's been riding roughshod over a Republican minority that's absolutely axe crazy? (Seriously, I wouldn't let a a psychiatrist near Michelle Bachmann without a strait jacket and a taser).

Sarah Palin couldn't cut it as governor of Alaska, and couldn't take a couple months of half-hearted poking from the media. You may not like Pelosi, but no one with half a brain calls her weak, or stupid for that matter. Stupid people don't get a climate change bill through the House.

The reason she drives the Republican minority absolutely crazy because she's incredibly dumb. Anyone who believes that we lose 500M jobs every month the government doesn't pass a stimulus package riddled with pork spending or believes that birth control will help to stimulate the economy (No, seriously. Her argument is that fewer people mean less expenditures the state has to spend on things such as health care) is anything but bright :lol:. And to say that stupid people don't get a climate change bill through the House doesn't make much sense, considering the fact that any and all climate change bills are stupidly pointless and only stupid people support them, as they result in not only incredibly large tax hikes, but job losses, as well, as companies and corporations cut workers in order to offset increased costs. And what's make it funny is that, in the end, they don't even make a lick of difference in the climate.

...And even mentioning that, Sarah Palin's approval ratings > Nancy Pelosi's approval ratings.

But, moving on, what do you mean "Sarah Palin couldn't cut it as governor of Alaska"? Are you saying that because she resigned? It's not uncommon for politicians to resign from their post in order to pursue another post (If that's indeed what she's doing). People who act as if Palin is doing something out of the ordinary are either being really disingenuous, or they have short memory span. Also, I'd be willing to bet that you couldn't name a single thing she's done for Alaska without consulting Wikipedia-- Just one. And I'd be willing to bet that you didn't, and still don't, realize just how much of a . .. .. .. . hole Alaska was before she took office (Comparatively speaking, anyway). It leads me to wonder just where people are getting their info regarding Palin and what they're basing it on.

And to say she can't take a couple of months of "half-hearted poking" from the media is understating it. Remember how up in arms people got over the whole NYT cartoon concerning Obama and the stimulus package, which really was just "half-hearted poking"? Now, imagine that multiplied a hundred times over, only it's not "half-hearted poking".
 
Actually, I think there is a kernel of truth to the OP's speculation, namely, I could see Palin having some association with third party/Alaskan secessionist type movements, even if not overtly, but it could come out. As for her resignation, I think that regardless of the cause it pretty much destroys political chances of her being elected to another high office - for her sake I'd hope she just is going to be spending time with her family and not get involved in anything more ridiculous. As for the 2012 speculation in particular, her resignation now is an absolutely horrible and frankly pathetic decision if this is her reason, because it does show she cares little for elected office and its responsibility, given that her term as governor wouldn't even have overlapped or interfered.
 
Actually, I think there is a kernel of truth to the OP's speculation, namely, I could see Palin having some association with third party/Alaskan secessionist type movements, even if not overtly, but it could come out.

I don't know if you're referring to this, but her husband was a member of a secessionist party. Some McCain campaign emails have been released recently about how they tried to deal with it.

Cleo
 
With the so called conservative base so much in thrall of Palin I am curious how many would follow her if she decided to bail from the Republican party and form a party based on old testament type values.
How many Republican supporters who post here would follow her out of the Republican party ?

Old Testament type values!? That would be awesome! That would be beyond awesome to the point of being awesometastic!
 
The reason she drives the Republican minority absolutely crazy because she's incredibly dumb. Anyone who believes that we lose 500M jobs every month the government doesn't pass a stimulus package riddled with pork spending or believes that birth control will help to stimulate the economy (No, seriously. Her argument is that fewer people mean less expenditures the state has to spend on things such as health care) is anything but bright :lol:.

Ever wonder why we had to pass such a bad stimulus bill? Hint: it's because the Republicans got psychotic at the mention of spending, most of the dems in conservative districts had to play along or loose their jobs, and they had to be allayed with pork. Because Republicans opposed an otherwise good bill. Pelosi, Obama and Reid would have loved to come up with a really bi-partisan bill with the best suggestions from both parties, but when the Republicans biggest suggestion was "Freeze all federal spending" well... Let's just say that's the kind of thing that gets you sent to the kiddie table while the grownups make decisions.

And to say that stupid people don't get a climate change bill through the House doesn't make much sense, considering the fact that any and all climate change bills are stupidly pointless and only stupid people support them, as they result in not only incredibly large tax hikes, but job losses, as well, as companies and corporations cut workers in order to offset increased costs. And what's make it funny is that, in the end, they don't even make a lick of difference in the climate.

Actually they do. Believe it or not, when you cut down on pumping crap into the atmosphere, the atmosphere gets less crappy (or at least gets crappy at a slower rate). As for "only stupid people support climate change bills" do I really need to get you a list of award winning scientists who said this bill was a good idea? Because the next biggest one isn't the scientists saying climate bills are bad, it's the ones saying it didn't go far enough. Finally, we come to the ironic idea of this bill being bad for the economy. It's going to shuffle jobs around, no debate, but it's going to create new ones, just like it's going to axe jobs that actually hurt our economy in the long run.

But, moving on, what do you mean "Sarah Palin couldn't cut it as governor of Alaska"? Are you saying that because she resigned? It's not uncommon for politicians to resign from their post in order to pursue another post (If that's indeed what she's doing).

In case you didn't notice, we have no idea what's she's doing. Her father-in-law was shocked. The people who run her twitter blasted the people criticizing her for announcing that she would fill out her remaining term and then not seek a second. If Palin's people don't know what she's up to, I sure don't.

But quitting her job now isn't "not uncommon", it's all but unheard of. Bush and Clinton stayed in the governor's office right up until they were elected. The real issue here is Palin's experience. She's been governor for less than three years, and there's a fair chance she's going to run for President. Uhuh, no way. I place more value on competence than experience (which already disqualifies her) but running a state like Alaska for two and half years simply isn't enough experience. Even Obama was better off in that regard, being a national senator for four years, and having a background in the senate of a large state like Illinois.

Also, I'd be willing to bet that you couldn't name a single thing she's done for Alaska without consulting Wikipedia-- Just one.

Keep going Bei. Napoleon once said "Never stop an enemy when he is blundering" Go on, tell people how little Palin did for Alaska, and how blank her resume is.

And I'd be willing to bet that you didn't, and still don't, realize just how much of a [poopie] hole Alaska was before she took office (Comparatively speaking, anyway). It leads me to wonder just where people are getting their info regarding Palin and what they're basing it on.

What I think you don't realize is that Alaska hasn't changed since Palin took office. Whatever shot it had was mired by Palin's ridiculous number of ethnics hangups, and inability to work with the legislature, both of them stemming from her office's chummy, paranoid, and secretive sub-culture.

And to say she can't take a couple of months of "half-hearted poking" from the media is understating it. Remember how up in arms people got over the whole NYT cartoon concerning Obama and the stimulus package, which really was just "half-hearted poking"? Now, imagine that multiplied a hundred times over, only it's not "half-hearted poking".

In case you didn't notice, she mostly got a free pass from the media during the elections. She got made fun of and some investigative reporting was done, but nothing serious. It was after the election, when McCain's campaign dissolved, that she got nastier treatment. And still, the media treats her like a serious, respectable politician, refuses to so much as take a glance at the cesspool of her Alaskan work, and generally satisfies themselves with patting themselves on the back about giving Palin a "tough vetting". Puh-lease.
 
Palin has been gov for half a term in Alaska. One cannot seriously believe that those two years have resulted in real, significant betterments for the people of Alaska.

If they did, we surely would have heard about them by now. The discussion of Palin has always been centered around the IDEA of Palin, or what Palin REPRESENTS, not the actual merits of Palin's record.

Ironically enough, that was also the case with Obama.
 
If she started her own party... I would celebrate. This would effectively split the Republican vote, basically throwing the next election to the Dems... if she ran on her own ticket for President.
 
Pelosi, Obama and Reid would have loved to come up with a really bi-partisan bill
I'm not sure about Reid. He's acting like a useless tool. If he lost his seat it would be one of the better things to happen to the democrats, since they could get a new senate leader who understands you don't need 70 votes to pass a bill.
 
What is this pork the republicans added? I've not heard of this, but to be honest I've tried to just ignore as much news as I can lately because the stupidity is too enraging. Only thing I've heard of this stimulus bill was that most of it was going to Obama's little pet projects and supporters.
 
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