I suspected as much, but some things have to be stated out loud because other people on this very thread have argued unironically that we have no stake whatsoever in the matter even when US election candidates promise to make our lives miserable. Take it as an inimicus curiæ brief.
Election 2024 Part III: Out with the old!
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"What “The Apprentice” captures most evocatively is Mr. Trump’s transition from pleasing his father to enlisting Mr. Cohn as a mentor and role model. Mr. Cohn’s role was to help Mr. Trump outdo his father, even as Fred used his vast wealth and political connections to clear Donald’s path. At the time that Mr. Trump first met Mr. Cohn at a private club in 1973, Fred and Donald had just been sued by the Justice Department for refusing to rent to Black people and other minorities at their Trump Village apartment buildings in Brooklyn.
The evidence of racism was overwhelming. But Mr. Cohn urged Mr. Trump to fight back rather than settle. “The Apprentice” distills Mr. Cohn’s worldview into three life lessons he shared with Mr. Trump: Attack, attack, attack; admit nothing and deny everything; and claim victory and never admit defeat. Mr. Trump took those principles to heart."
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"What “The Apprentice” captures most evocatively is Mr. Trump’s transition from pleasing his father to enlisting Mr. Cohn as a mentor and role model. Mr. Cohn’s role was to help Mr. Trump outdo his father, even as Fred used his vast wealth and political connections to clear Donald’s path. At the time that Mr. Trump first met Mr. Cohn at a private club in 1973, Fred and Donald had just been sued by the Justice Department for refusing to rent to Black people and other minorities at their Trump Village apartment buildings in Brooklyn.
The evidence of racism was overwhelming. But Mr. Cohn urged Mr. Trump to fight back rather than settle. “The Apprentice” distills Mr. Cohn’s worldview into three life lessons he shared with Mr. Trump: Attack, attack, attack; admit nothing and deny everything; and claim victory and never admit defeat. Mr. Trump took those principles to heart."
Opinion | I Was Trump’s Ghostwriter. A New Biopic Gets the Most Important Thing Right.
Critics may argue about specific factual details, but a new account of Trump’s ascent jibes with everything I saw with my own eyes.
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Trump playing Hallelujah at town hall-turned-concert is 'blasphemy': Rufus Wainwright
Former U.S. president was interrupted twice by medical emergencies in the audience
Former U.S. president Donald Trump played Rufus Wainwright's cover of Hallelujah at a town hall-turned-impromptu concert Monday, which the musician has since called "the height of blasphemy."In a statement posted to X Tuesday, Wainwright wrote that he "in no way" condoned Trump's use of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah, which he described as "an anthem dedicated to peace, love and acceptance of the truth."
"Witnessing Trump and his supporters commune with this music last night was the height of blasphemy," Wainwright wrote.
His statement added that the publishing company for Cohen's estate sent Trump a cease-and-desist order.
This comes after a town hall in the Philadelphia suburbs Monday was interrupted by two different medical emergencies and morphed into an impromptu concert. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, eventually opted to stop answering questions and instead bopped and swayed along to a playlist that included The Village People, Sinéad O'Connor, Elvis and Wainwright.
For nearly 40 entire minutes.
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"Nobody's leaving. What's going on? There's nobody leaving. Keep going," he said later.
He shimmied onstage to an eclectic playlist of songs that included O'Connor's cover of Nothing Compares 2 U by Prince, Wainwright's Hallelujah cover, Guns N' Roses' November Rain, and of course, the Village People's Y.M.C.A. As Billboard notes, several of the artists in Trump's playlist have previously asked him not to play their music at campaign stops.
Karoline Leavitt, Trump's national press secretary, published on the social media site X a photo of Trump from the side of the stage. "DJ TRUMP!" she wrote.
But while Leavitt and other Trump supporters praised his "energy" at the "total lovefest" and said he gives the audience "hope," critics called the impromptu concert "weird" and "awkward," and questioned Trump's mental acuity.
On X, U.S. Vice-President Kamala Harris's official campaign account wrote, "Trump appears lost, confused, and frozen on stage as multiple songs play for 30+ minutes and the crowd pours out of the venue early."
"Hope he's OK," Democratic nominee Harris later wrote after sharing the post.
'Some great music'
At the town hall, Trump paused his question-and-answer session after about 30 minutes as a doctor in the room attended to the first person to have a medical issue. That's when he requested Ave Maria. An instrumental version followed.After a second emergency minutes later halted the discussion moderated by South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, Trump said he actually meant Italian opera singer Luciano Pavarotti's version of the song. It was then played.
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Trump suggested they could wrap up the evening by enjoying some musical selections rather than hearing him answer more questions. He called for Y.M.C.A. and it blasted through the loudspeakers, the usual signal that Trump is done speaking and is ready to leave. But he remained on stage.
More music played — and for roughly 40 minutes, it didn't stop. Many of his supporters made their way to the exits, but some stayed through the end.
"That thing Trump did last night is not explainable and it is not small," Democratic Sen. Brian Schatz posted on X Tuesday morning.
"It shows that he's increasingly detached from reality. Everyone knows if Biden or Harris did that it would be media mayhem. He's not OK, and you can't ignore it anymore."
As the New York Times points out, Trump is known for his "improvisational detours." And at Mar-a-Lago, his residence in Palm Beach, Fla., Trump "has been known to take out an iPad that is connected to the speaker system there and play DJ for his guests," the Times reported.
Since the 2020 election, several artists have objected to the use of their music at Trump rallies, including Celine Dion, Bruce Springsteen, Rihanna, Phil Collins, Pharrell, John Fogerty, Neil Young, Eddy Grant, Panic! at the Disco, Guns N' Roses and R.E.M.
In March, the estate of Sinéad O'Connor asked Trump to stop playing her music at campaign rallies, saying the late singer considered the former U.S. president a "biblical devil."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-music-town-hall-1.7352277
Angst
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who's president in the us is incredibly important to greece
I'd say the US is important to Greece. Currently it's not clear that anything will change (or if it does, to which direction) for Greece if one or the other are president.
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Race is tightening. Current polling is even in the swing states or shows Trump with a slight lead.
Seems the various bumps from the convention and debate are fading.
Unclear how to shake that up. Harris is scheduled on Fox News. I doubt this move would be done if there weren't some uncertainty within her campaign. A strong media tour could make gains if she pushes the economic populism.
I think abortion is sorta played out as a winning political issue. Although important, it's well known and there aren't many further gains to be made there, I don't think. The economic populism could, though. Perhaps attack Trump directly on the economy via age. His mumblings don't scream good steward.
Seems the various bumps from the convention and debate are fading.
Unclear how to shake that up. Harris is scheduled on Fox News. I doubt this move would be done if there weren't some uncertainty within her campaign. A strong media tour could make gains if she pushes the economic populism.
I think abortion is sorta played out as a winning political issue. Although important, it's well known and there aren't many further gains to be made there, I don't think. The economic populism could, though. Perhaps attack Trump directly on the economy via age. His mumblings don't scream good steward.
The October Surprise May Be Arriving Shortly
History suggests the decisive moment is still to come.Now that you have read the 500th poll of the battleground states, the thousands of simulations, the scientific and pseudo-scientific calculations, the hourly assertions of how close this contest is, you might want to take a breath and contemplate the possibility that the factor that will determine the outcome may not have happened yet. At least, that’s what our recent political history says.
Again and again, close presidential contests have been overtaken by last-minute events that rendered the months of analysis and speculation inoperative. Historians can debate the ultimate impact of these moments, but they have emerged often enough that they should provide a good dose of humility to any assessment of the outcome.
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Georgia judge rules that counties must certify election results
The decision is a defeat for allies of former president Donald Trump who sought to empower local leaders to hold up the outcome of the vote this year.By Amy Gardner
October 15, 2024 at 1:26 p.m. EDT
A Georgia judge ruled this week that state law does not give county officials discretion to withhold certification of election results, a defeat for allies of former president Donald Trump who sought to empower local leaders to hold up the outcome of the vote.
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Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney ruled Monday that certification of election results is a mandatory duty irrespective of any concerns that a county election board may have about the accuracy of the count. Such concerns are the domain of prosecutors and state election officials, he ruled, and local boards are expected to relay any evidence of irregularity to their local district attorney.
The ruling sends a signal to county election officials across the state who have hesitated to certify results. It also has the potential to affect several rules approved this year by a pro-Trump majority on the State Election Board, including one that permits county boards to investigate irregularities and that critics fear could allow them to delay results.
The decision adds to a body of judicial precedent that Democrats hope will close off any attempt by Republicans to inject chaos into the post-election environment by keeping the election results from being finalized. Experts have identified that possibility as something that Trump allies could attempt in multiple states, in addition to Georgia.
Nothing in state law allows county election leaders “to declare fraud (or, more importantly, determine the consequences for it, if it in fact occurs),” McBurney wrote. “The Georgia Bureau of Investigation, the Secretary of State, the many District Attorneys, and the Attorney General are all better equipped and clearly authorized to undertake the work of verifying election fraud and seeking consequences for it.” McBurney’s ruling came in a lawsuit filed this year by Julie Adams, a member of the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections who had refused to join her colleagues as they certified two primaries. Adams claimed in the suit that she was denied her right to examine a long list of election records for signs of fraud or other issues. She also argued that there would be no point to certification if local officials were not permitted to flag irregularities.
But nothing in state statutes gives boards leeway in their obligation to certify and “do so by a time certain,” McBurney wrote. “There are no exceptions.” Adams, however, claimed a victory with the ruling, which affirmed her right to ask for documents that allow her to examine the security of elections. “Having access to the entire election process will allow every board member to know and have confidence in the true and accurate results before the time for certification,” Adams said in a written statement.
Voting rights advocates and Democrats — including Vice President Kamala Harris’s campaign — also claimed a victory.
“Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans don’t get to decide who wins elections — voters do,” the Harris campaign said in a statement. “The experts were clear that the 2020 election was free, fair, and secure, and Democrats are making sure that 2024 is the same.”
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Does it not sound like they can drag it out for as long as they like? Which, it sounds like they would certainly do if/when he loses Georgia? Id say its a neutral ruling bent slightly to those who would abuse the election certification duty.
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I voted and submitted my vote by email to be faxed to the states, hopefully that goes thru, have already had one technical issue trying to vote abroad.
Voted pro legal weed in Florida and did quick Google searches on all the local candidates.
Voted pro legal weed in Florida and did quick Google searches on all the local candidates.
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Trump tells all-female audience he is the 'father of IVF'
Hello and welcome to our live coverage of the US election.We're starting off by looking at a Donald Trump town hall event with an all-female audience. It airs on Fox News later on Wednesday, but we have seen some quotes from the pre-recorded event.
One that stands out is Trump declaring he is the "father of IVF".
“We really are the party for IVF,” Trump told the town hall host Harris Faulkner, when speaking about the fertility treatment. “We want fertilisation, and it’s all the way, and the Democrats tried to attack us on it, and we’re out there on IVF, even more than them. So, we’re totally in favour.”
IVF has become an issue in this election after an Alabama court ruled in February that frozen embryos created through fertility treatment are children.
Kamala Harris reacted to Trump's statement on X, saying: "Donald Trump called himself 'the father of IVF.' What is he talking about?His abortion bans have already jeopardized access to it in states across the country—and his own platform could end IVF altogether."
We will bring you more from the town hall when it airs. And we will have key updates from Harris's first ever formal interview on Fox News, which also airs later today.
Stick with us for another busy day on the campaign trail.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c8dj3pz2vyet
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how would you ever know? (/rhetorical)
you don't even get a receipt that your vote was received at the polls! at least I never did...
As the Coen brothers would say, it's not a typo.
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This was supposed to be an interview where Kamala would try to win over some of the independents (?) or even conservatives watching Fox. But surely she shouldn't have been expecting a friendly interview. Among the highlights (it started badly, went on worse) was when there was (apparently) no actual preparation to the obvious follow-up and rhetorical maneuver of the interviewer, when Kamala called Trump unstable, to ask her about Biden.
Btw, what's with Trump's partly orange partly white face? ^^ At least before he was consistently orange.
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