Zkribbler
Deity
21 times as many black males are killed by the police as white males. Are they all "playing gangster?"
Does "playing gangster" really justify extra-judicial execution?
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21 times as many black males are killed by the police as white males. Are they all "playing gangster?"
Does "playing gangster" really justify extra-judicial execution?
gay_Aleks
from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
Perhaps the white cops should be trained how to "play policeman", huh?
I am not calling anybody Hitler except Hitler. Nowhere did I ever suggest anyone was Hitler. What I -did- suggest is that one does not need a trial to have been guilty of something.
Not sure how you guys thought I was calling anyone Hitler.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
...what?
So since you have not been put on trial, are we to assume you have committed atrocities?
I have evidence that just like Hitler, Brown, and Wilson, you were not put on trial.
Of course not.
Beating a police officer does though.
Coming at the police with a knife does though.
Not following a police officers (who knows you have a violent history, including shooting at police) instruction when you have a gun a half foot from you does though.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
Moderator Action: Dubious racist infographic removed. This is inappropriately racist content and trolling the thread.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
Senethro
Overlord
huh funny thing is is you search google for this image then you get a whole lot of racist websites
C_H, why not give us your interpretation of the stats. Just posting it here without comment could lead to people misinterpreting it and we wouldn't want that.
What do you think it means?
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
General rule of thumb, when somebody uses the term "blacks" exclusively, not as a shorthand for "black people" or "the black community" but just as the default collective noun for black Americans, it's because they understand it's no longer acceptable to say ""n---s" but don't understand why.
Senethro
Overlord
"Facts" are pretty meaningless if not examined for accuracy or lack an explanation for why they are the way they are. C_H has also neglected to say what recommended actions or policies he suggests pursuing based on these "facts".
Leonel
Breakfast Connoisseur
Why isn't CH talking about white-on-white violence? 83% of white people are victimized by their own kind, why is he choosing to ignore this statistic that is rampant in his community?
Gori the Grey
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The graphic essentially "corrects for population" the opposite way that it should. A fuller corrective later, perhaps.
warpus
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So basically for some reason white people are provoking black people into violence. White people man, will they never learn?
Gori the Grey
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I can’t find the stats for all forms of violent crime broken out by race in the source cited on the graphic. I can only find homicide broken out by race.
Total Homicide Victims for 2010: 6294
of those, 3227 victims were white (51%), 2720 victims were black (43%)
of the whites killed, 2777 (86%) were killed by other whites; 447 (13%) were killed by blacks
of the blacks killed, 2459 (90%) were killed by other blacks; 218 (8%) were killed by whites
So by far the vast majority of homicides are intraracial, but, yes, if you want to compare rates of interracial homicide, a larger percentage of whites who were killed in 2010 were killed by blacks (13%) than the percentage of black homicide victims who were killed by whites (8%). And you can, if you wish, make this a rate and say that blacks kill whites at a rate 1.65x the rate that whites kill blacks. (This is less than the 5x that the chart gives for the various forms of violent crime. Again, the only form of violent crime I can find broken out by race is homicide.)
But regardless, what you cannot do (as the graphic goes on to do) is then introduce the population differences as though it multiplies this rate. The graphic indicates there are 5 times as many whites as blacks in America. That does not mean one multiplies the rate that one derived from earlier the numbers by 5 to get some even larger number as the rate “adjusted for population.” The original figures were not given in per capita format, so they don't call for being "adjusted" in any way by population percentages.
What you could do with the population statistic is say that, although blacks make up only 12.6% of the population, they represent 43% of the homicide victims.
Total Homicide Victims for 2010: 6294
of those, 3227 victims were white (51%), 2720 victims were black (43%)
of the whites killed, 2777 (86%) were killed by other whites; 447 (13%) were killed by blacks
of the blacks killed, 2459 (90%) were killed by other blacks; 218 (8%) were killed by whites
So by far the vast majority of homicides are intraracial, but, yes, if you want to compare rates of interracial homicide, a larger percentage of whites who were killed in 2010 were killed by blacks (13%) than the percentage of black homicide victims who were killed by whites (8%). And you can, if you wish, make this a rate and say that blacks kill whites at a rate 1.65x the rate that whites kill blacks. (This is less than the 5x that the chart gives for the various forms of violent crime. Again, the only form of violent crime I can find broken out by race is homicide.)
But regardless, what you cannot do (as the graphic goes on to do) is then introduce the population differences as though it multiplies this rate. The graphic indicates there are 5 times as many whites as blacks in America. That does not mean one multiplies the rate that one derived from earlier the numbers by 5 to get some even larger number as the rate “adjusted for population.” The original figures were not given in per capita format, so they don't call for being "adjusted" in any way by population percentages.
What you could do with the population statistic is say that, although blacks make up only 12.6% of the population, they represent 43% of the homicide victims.
Leonel
Breakfast Connoisseur
Awfully deceptive, that is.
Senethro
Overlord
Huh its almost as if an infograph used by many racist websites is trying to bend facts.
Yo C_H where'd you get that piece of trash?
Yo C_H where'd you get that piece of trash?
