Ferguson

Hey, police have to protect themselves. When you wrestle someone down and lay on them they can get mad. So it's important to beat the snot out of them, choke them out, taze them a few times, and handcuff them before they get a chance to retaliate...because you just never know.

Well it does make sense tactically. Whenever you are in any sort of confrontation with someone, the objective is not to fight fair but to absolutely demolish your opponent with overwhelming force before they even have a chance to fight back or even know they are in a fight yet.

Now, should the police be in that type of mindset? Probably not.
 
Well it does make sense tactically. Whenever you are in any sort of confrontation with someone, the objective is not to fight fair but to absolutely demolish your opponent with overwhelming force before they even have a chance to fight back or even know they are in a fight yet.

Now, should the police be in that type of mindset? Probably not.

I agree wholeheartedly with the tactic...the issue is that cops shouldn't get to start fights with impunity.

The cop in that video has cost departments he has worked for millions of dollars in law suits, faced multiple criminal charges that were dropped but led to him losing jobs...and police departments just keep on hiring him and other thugs just like him.
 
The latest police outrage. :(


Link to video.

Police Officer Melendez, the one punching the guy on the ground and accused of planting drugs, can be seen in the court document @3:24

Look in the top left.
It says he is also known as Robocop. :cool:

The guy apparently has a history of excessive force problems.
http://www.davidileelaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/02062003melendezfreep.pdf

Horrible.

You know, there were 4 policemen there at the start (two immediately), and they claim they used violence to protect their own selves. Well if you are a frightened person to this degree maybe you should not seek a job as a policeman? It is not like policemen are paid so as to lick stamps.

In the EU (even now) if police acted in this way it would be a very drastic (even if for wrong reasons as well as right ones) sacking of the officers and likely some jail time as well.
 
North Charleston officer faces murder charge after video shows him shooting man in back
Andrew Knapp
Apr 7 6:12 pm

A North Charleston police officer was arrested on a murder charge Tuesday after video surfaced of the lawman shooting eight times at 50-year-old Walter Scott as he ran away.

Scott died Saturday after Patrolman 1st Class Michael Slager, 33, shot him in the back.

The State Law Enforcement Division, which looked into whether the shooting was justified, confirmed that the officer had been booked into Charleston County’s jail late Tuesday afternoon on a murder charge. [cont.]

Progress? Well, white police officers are still gunning black men down in the streets, but at least they're being charged with murder now. The article says Scott had an arrest warrant out for contempt of court, for failure to pay child support. Officer Slager fired eight shots, although it's unclear how many rounds hit. Enough to kill the man, anyway. I think any murder trial is a long affair, so it may be a while before we have a verdict.
 
The Mayor said:
When you’re wrong, you’re wrong. If you make a bad decision, I don’t care if you’re behind the shield or just a citizen on the street, you have to live by that decision.

Of course if you are behind the shield you are only wrong if you get caught red handed on video tape and there's no practical way to dispose of it.
 
There's so much overwhelming evidence of both racial prejudice or simply cops being evil (as they killed that mentally ill homeless man) that obviously the system needs a revamp. I don't generally agree with the far left/anti cop crowd, but enough is enough, christ.
 
Progress? Well, white police officers are still gunning black men down in the streets, but at least they're being charged with murder now. The article says Scott had an arrest warrant out for contempt of court, for failure to pay child support. Officer Slager fired eight shots, although it's unclear how many rounds hit. Enough to kill the man, anyway. I think any murder trial is a long affair, so it may be a while before we have a verdict.

Beneath a Steel Sky.

'Game over Player 1. Be Vigilant!'
 
There's so much overwhelming evidence of both racial prejudice or simply cops being evil (as they killed that mentally ill homeless man)
You'll have to be more specific. Mentally ill people are killed by police only less frequently than black men are. I couldn't remember the name of the kid beaten to death by cops for trying to sneak into a movie without paying, but a Google search turned up so many pages of stories about other similar deaths that I gave up trying to find him.

that obviously the system needs a revamp. I don't generally agree with the far left/anti cop crowd, but enough is enough, christ.
Yes, when cops stop killing people, stealing from them, and shredding the US Constitution, we lefties will finally get off their danged backs. :lol:
 
On the bright side, voter turnout for yesterday's Ferguson City Council elections was 30%, more than double previous elections. Two of three seats went to black candidates. Of course, being black guarantees nothing and it wasn't City Council members who were kicking the crap out of people, but I think this is a positive development. Hopefully citizen participation continues to improve and doesn't simply slide back to previous levels of cynical apathy when the shine wears off.
 
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A North Charleston police officer was forced to use his service weapon Saturday during a scuffle with a suspect who tried to overpower him and seize the officer's Taser, authorities said.

The man, who has a history of violence and a long arrest record, died on the scene as a result of the encounter, despite officers performing CPR and delivering first aid, according to police reports.

The shooting was the 11th this year by a South Carolina police officer. The State Law Enforcement Division has begun an investigation into the incident.

Police identified the officer involved as Patrolman 1st Class Michael Thomas Slager and the suspect as Walter Lamar Scott, 50, of Meadowlawn Drive in West Ashley. Slager, 33, served honorably in the military before joining the North Charleston Police Department more than five years ago. He has never been disciplined during his time on the force, his attorney said.

The incident occurred behind a pawn shop on Craig Street and Remount Road. Slager initially pulled Scott over for a broken taillight. During the stop, police and witnesses say Scott fled the vehicle on foot. When Slager caught up with him a short distance from the street, Scott reportedly attempted to overpower Slager. Police say that during the struggle, the man gained control of the Taser and attempted to use it against the officer.

It was during that scuffle that the officer fired his service weapon, fatally wounding Scott.

“Shots fired, and the subject is down. He took my Taser," Slager radioed immediately following the shooting.

Slager “felt threatened and reached for his department-issued firearm and fired his weapon,” his attorney said in a statement on Sunday. “I believe once the community hears all the facts of this shooting, they’ll have a better understanding of the circumstances surrounding this investigation.”

Slager's attorney maintained that the officer believed he properly followed all procedures and policies before resorting to deadly force.

“This is part of the job that no one likes and wishes would never happen,” Police Chief Eddie Driggers said, according to a release. “This type of situation is unfortunate and difficult for everyone. We are confident that SLED will conduct a complete and thorough investigation into the incident and provide their findings to all concerned.”

A previous accusation that Slager assaulted a burglary victim was found to be without merit. In that case, it was determined that the officer had been within his rights to use force to defend himself after a man tried to overpower him.

Scott had a lengthy rap sheet extending back to at least 1987, when he was arrested on a charge of assault and battery. In 1991, he was convicted of possession of a bludgeon. He also had a history of arrests related to contempt of court charges for failing to pay child support, and in 2008 was convicted of driving under suspension and having an open alcohol container in his car.

Samuel Scott, a 55-year-old man who identified himself as Scott’s cousin, said he was shocked by the news.

“He wasn’t no criminal. He wasn’t young and in the streets. He was a grown man working hard to take care of his family,” he told the Charleston Post and Courier of his cousin. “He’s not a violent guy -- never seen him argue with anybody. I just can’t see it.”

Saturday's encounter bears similarities to the shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, which kicked off a national conversation about the use of force by police. Authorities there ultimately determined that Brown had attempted to overpower Officer Darren Wilson and run before turning back and charging the officer, who was forced to deploy his service weapon in the encounter.

Slager was placed on administrative duty, pending the outcome of the state investigation.
Spoiler :

This article relies entirely on local news reports, which sourced their version of events to information from police, the attorney for the officer, "witnesses" and police statements. Many of those claims turned out to be lies. Slager has been charged with murder. Whenever possible, this article pulls verbatim from local news reports.
 
Someone in the comments section of that article provided a link to the actual Post & Courier article that preceded the release of the video. The article features a department photo of the officer in the lead, remarks on the officer's 'honorable' military service, and notes that "one lawmaker said the episode again points out the need for body-mounted cameras whose footage can stave off community speculation."
 
There's so much overwhelming evidence of both racial prejudice or simply cops being evil (as they killed that mentally ill homeless man) that obviously the system needs a revamp. I don't generally agree with the far left/anti cop crowd, but enough is enough, christ.

It happens to whites too, jut doesn't make the news as often. Also it is important to note that the information that came out about Ferguson in the beginning has been thoroughly disproven by physical evidence. Simply put some eye witnesses intentionally lied and activists misrepresented the facts.

What I don't like about the whole Ferguson thing is that it has been politicised and once things are turned into political footballs they are never meant to be solved.

Both whites and blacks do not want a militarized police force, or racist rogue cops, but pitting whites against blacks, which is what has been done here by the government, media, and Ferguson activists is only going to exacerbate the problem.
 
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