General News Regarding China & Hong Kong
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innonimatu
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Yes, we do have a prime-minister who is in bed with the real estate business. And those are the only ones happy with the situation.
At least his merry band of corrupt "socialists" cannot govern alone. But the chinese will be sold visas so long as they bring money, on the theory that if and when a new cold war happens we can just kick them out and keep the money anyway.
Problem is, you collect corrupt "businessman", you risk getting a(nother) permanent source of corruption installed inside your country. Very bad move. Like the british importing arab despots and russian oligarchs.
Well, Apple followed up by actually banning the app, with pretty weak justification.
Apple Removes HKmap.live From App Store
"This is a bad look for Apple, if you think capitulation is a bad look."
So where does national sovereignty lie? Is it with the multi nationals or with the various national governments? If a foreign company runs business practices that are counter to US laws, should we allow those practices to continue?
Most nations prefer their own politics and laws to those of other nations. Where is the line between cultural influence and interference? Should corporations follow the laws of countries where they are active or should actively support anti government activity?
Most nations prefer their own politics and laws to those of other nations. Where is the line between cultural influence and interference? Should corporations follow the laws of countries where they are active or should actively support anti government activity?
Call a spade a spade.
Ferocitus
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Ok, I can dig that.Call a spade a spade.
RealPolitik doesn't operate under the same rules that govern how student essays on the is-ought question are graded.
Moriarte
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Should Huawei take part in anti-government activity in the US?
Cultural influence is selling jeans, hollywood movies and hamburgers to Ukrainians.
Interference is selling them weapons, providing them with intelligence and pressuring them to make steps to satisfy american foreign political goals.
With the one in control of armed forces.
Huawei should not stop people in the US from accessing wikileaks, or waze (does that still show police cars?) on their Huawei phones. Do you disagree?
Ferocitus
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I suspect that a new Cold War would have a long lead-up time because of the sheer number of joint scientific and cultural projects in operation around the world, and the number of academics holding dual professorships.
Ending many of the scientific projects that have military applications and sending the researchers home means that each country wouldn't know what others are up to. That would probably mean increases to espionage efforts, a dangerous game at the best of times.
I think we will continue having a Cool War for the foreseeable future. Admittedly it's a stupid term, but I'm sure savvy marketting types could knock it into a form that millennials and hipsters could get on board with.
Ferocitus
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It just gets worse and worse.
People will not only have to find replacements for their iPads and iPhones, but now they will be forced to suffer the indignity of using Bing.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50009763
People will not only have to find replacements for their iPads and iPhones, but now they will be forced to suffer the indignity of using Bing.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50009763
hobbsyoyo
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The NBA is throwing people out of stadiums for brining pro-Hong Kong posters and is cutting off reporters who ask questions along those lines at press conferences. ESPN showed a map of China yesterday which showed China owning the entirety of the South China sea and Taiwan. Apparently Disney is also beginning to censor some Winnie the Poo content in Western markets.
TheMeInTeam
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Interesting. Can the NBA legally throw out valid ticket holders on that basis in the US? That sounds like the kind of cretin move that has some legal risk. Even more so when doing it themselves per the map of China (aka holding ticket holders to obviously different standards than their own --> makes a ToS violation claim hard to justify).
In China they are one and the same. Again, an argument in favour of Lexicus' proposal to just insulate the world from the Chinese economy.
Lexicus
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I mean even asking the question of what the stadium owner can do on their own private property is basically blood-drenched Stalinist communism bro
*cofchinacof*
Lexicus
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I know! Here's the funny thing: appeasing China's literal blood-drenched Communist tyranny is now a condition of capital accumulation for all these corporations!
It literally depends on the Courts to adjudicate the unwritten aspects of the contract you enter in when you sell a ticket. There's a property owner, but there's also a contract.
Yes, it's the same as ‘Christian values’ meaning you support Muslim Turks and Arabs against Christian Arabs and Greeks (again for capital accumulation, because someone must have bought ISIS' oil), or being simultaneously pro-Israel and anti-Jew, or… so many contradictions!
The world is a very messy place and there are few simple solutions. Globalization only makes it more complicated. The first step: be the change you want to see.
