If you do not accept Jesus, he flatly proclaimed to his class, "you belong in hell."

El_Machinae said:
I find it so funny that the teacher was recorded. Did he record him for evidence, or as a learning tool?
Probably evidence. Student accuses teacher in front of headmaster... who's gonna have credibility when the teacher denies everything? I would have done the same in a similar situation: Recorded the event if possible and said something to the effect of "Here's what happened, stop weaseling".
 
rmsharpe said:
Would you all say the same things about a teacher that went on a long rant about atheism or the war in Iraq?
I know I would. We aren't all hypocrites, just because we doesn't share same views.
 
Yoda Power said:
I know I would. We aren't all hypocrites, just because we doesn't share same views.

It was just a typical troll otherwise he would not have assumed that anyone who disagrees with this teacher is an atheist and as a consequence an opponent of the Iraq war.
Moral flexibility is a talent usually displayed by birds of his political feather.
 
rmsharpe said:
Would you all say the same things about a teacher that went on a long rant about atheism or the war in Iraq?

He's a history teacher, so the war in Iraq would be a very legitimate subject of discussion.

If he went on a rant about how non-atheists are going to die a painful death, then yes, he should be fired.
 
rmsharpe said:
Would you all say the same things about a teacher that went on a long rant about atheism or the war in Iraq?
So would I being saying the say things if a teacher said you must convert to atheism or go to Hell? How's that work? :crazyeye:

I reckon I'd still think he was a nut. Probably more so.
 
warpus said:
He's a history teacher, so the war in Iraq would be a very legitimate subject of discussion.
If he went on a long rant about how Bush is gonna burn in Hell because of Iraq he should too.

On a side not: A history teacher can teach religion too (from a historic perspective ofcause). It is when he becomes subjective instead of objective that problems emerge.
 
Indeed. If he was encouraging discussion and debate then he should be praised but using the classroom to spread his bigoted opinions is a big no no.
 
Good for the student, particularly on recording the comments! Man, I remember when it was my word against a teacher's once and how sucky it felt to have the administration believe the teacher over me.
 
I do hope they fire him! If he is that good at giving sermons, then he should become what he seemingly wishes to be - a radical Christian hate preacher! I bet there's job offers galore anyways!
 
I'm not sure what hell has to do with history. Unless he was teaching the history of the idea of the afterlife, of course, but I don't think that's what he was doing. (That could be an interesting course, actually) And I fail to see why evolution should come up in history class, except when you get to Darwin's voyage, and then only as a historical note.

Sounds like a really weird situation to me.
 
Simple, should be fired. Teachers exist to relay the message prescribed in the curriculum, not to spread their own agenda, which in this case is vitrolic religious scaremongering.
 
rmsharpe said:
Would you all say the same things about a teacher that went on a long rant about atheism or the war in Iraq?

Yep a teacher is there to teach history or politics or religious education not to explain his world view to the class, it's beyond the remit of his post. The students are supposed to make up there own minds about issues, they're meant to be learning the facts and how to discuss them, not have them rammed down their throats by a teacher. It's not so much exactly what he said, it's the fact that he's trying to indoctrinate people, be that raccism, atheism, fundementalism, or political views.
 
They should fire him. Establishment Clause and all that. 'Nuff said.

OOC: First post here in a looooong time...
 
Eran of Arcadia said:
No, from what I have seen most fundamentalist evangelical Christians aren't really into that all that much.

Hmmn, I dunno about that. More than once I've seen scripture pulled out that predicted their 'oppression'.

I think they should fire the teacher; mainly because he was caught lying (as well as abusing his position). I wonder if there's a union involved..
 
Eran of Arcadia said:
No, from what I have seen most fundamentalist evangelical Christians aren't really into that all that much.
Yes, but people need time to pick up on the reasoning fully.
 
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