Is it really all about sex?

[Hygro]

Or is it really about the money. /gangsta


So is it all really about sex? Go to a good school, play in a band, get a good job, travel and explore, go to the disco. Is music and video games and media really just trying to tap into that satisfaction that comes with sex? Is that what this is all about?

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

My best friend and I were talking about this the other day. She's of the mind that 95% of people are some form of bored/lonely/horny.

I dunno. I mean sure, sex drives a lot, particularly anything that we project. Like material goods, social attitude. But I think the baser drive is enjoyment or pleasure, and that there are multiple roads to that, not just sex or tapping into sex. If nothing else, there are those who identify as asexual.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

It was, but I'm older now. Thankfully.

 

[Bootstoots]

Why would there not be many equally or maybe compelling stuffs?

 

[BvBPL]

I do it all for the nookie.

 

[madviking]

you can't do arts and crafts with just sequins

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Or is it really about the money. /gangsta


So is it all really about sex? Go to a good school, play in a band, get a good job, travel and explore, go to the disco. Is music and video games and media really just trying to tap into that satisfaction that comes with sex? Is that what this is all about?

Is that what they're trying to do? I thought the idea was to make loud noise that pretends to be real music.

Music... let's see. My favorite music is either instrumental, folk, or filk. There's not much of it that focuses on casual sex. One of my favorite filks does deal with the grief a woman feels when her fiance - a pacifist who nevertheless trained as a soldier - goes off to war and ends up sacrificing his life to defeat the enemy ("Michael's Song", based on the novel Lost Dorsai, by Gordon Dickson, sung by Julia Ecklar).

Video games? Nope, not into the kind that brings sex into it, unless you count the "Sim" variety. And even then for me it's more about designing weird-looking houses than anything else.

Media... okay, I'll admit to some TV shows, movies, and books. But nowhere near as much as in the past. Sheesh, these days the books and fanfic I'm reading aren't even science fiction - they're based on Bonanza, and while there are subplots involving the eternal question of "will he find a girlfriend and get married" ('cause anyone who's ever watched Bonanza knows that any time one of the Cartrights intends to court a woman or even get married, she always either dies, runs off, goes to prison, marries someone else, or there's some other reason it never works out), the main story is always about how the family overcomes the problems thrown at them.

@madviking: You also need either glue, needle & thread, or pins & styrofoam.

 

[Farm Boy]

Nope. But it can seem like it if you are in some combination of young, dumb, and full of ***.

 

[Narz]

It was, but I'm older now. Thankfully.

When does the craving lessen? I'm 35 and I still have to supress sexual thoughts everytime I see a cute girl on the train.

 

[Narz]

Or is it really about the money. /gangsta

The wannabe-gangster culture is clearly all about sex.

So is it all really about sex? Go to a good school, play in a band, get a good job, travel and explore, go to the disco.

Mostly for me anyway.

Although now that I have a kid I seek a long-term-female equally to sex with & to be a good caretaker for my kid. If either the sex or caretaking skills are poor, obviously she is not a good candidate for a long-term relationship.

Also, I loathed being practically speaking an only child (technically I had a brother 11 years my senior but he was never around) so I'd like to make another at some point. So for this reason its unlikely I'd consider a woman over 30 for a long-term relationship.

So I would say for me its about sex & care for my young equally. So reproductive fitness.

However, plenty of folks are childless by choice. Some are even celibate by choice (well I only really take that claim seriously from females, males celibate by choice are mostly just too lazy to make an effort with women). So, I cannot buy that sex rules everything.

My theory is that not everyone needs to procreate. Its better than some folks help maintain the tribe while those with strong reproductive drives (and the means to support their offspring)... well for them it is mostly about sex.

I think for me its mostly about sex. I've tried the sex-transmutation thing, its doesn't really seem to work for me.

Is music and video games and media really just trying to tap into that satisfaction that comes with sex? Is that what this is all about?

I don't think those things try to replace sex, they just may be related to evolutionary skills to procure sex. Being able to make music showcases all sorts of skills (being tuned into emotion, the ability to work hard to perfect an instrument, the ability to master delicate finger movements , etc.). Video games are usually about conquest, organization & building stuff, skills that would be necessary to win & safeguard a mate in the past.

This explanation is pretty much from the male-perspective because lets face it, a woman pretty much needs only to be blazing hot (or barring that simply willing to settle for whoever) & some sap will knock her up. The main female sexual skill is to be able to weed out the deadbeats or at least woo a man who can be convinced to raise up the deadbeat's kid as his own.

Obviously kindness, intelligence, creativity, etc. help but those are to keep the paternal figure around once he's reached timsup's age.

Edit : I should add that everyone needs social skills. Because if you're killed by a rival or the tribe for being too annoying or distuptive whatever sex appeal you may have had is irrelevant.

 

[Borachio]

Er...

Yes and no.

It depends on who you ask and what they understand by sex, I think.

In some ways of thinking, the only "energy" is sexual energy (which is certainly a point of view).

I'm never sure what people mean when they talk about "energy", though.

 

[bhavv]

My libido is destroyed by medications.

 

[downtown]

1) Sex is super dope, but there is a lot of super dope stuff out there.

2) Babies are horrible and constant cockblocks, so the incentive to figure out more of that dope stuff rises when you become a dad.

 

[Borachio]

Look. Sex is a messy business however you look at it. Leave it to the experts, I say. That's why we have experts: to deal with this sort of thing.

 

[Phrossack]

Asexuals seem to be as into music, art, games, and other aspects of life as much as anyone else, so I don't think we can attribute all things to horniness.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

As others have said - it can be and not rarely is a very major driving force in ones life. Especially when one is younger. So obviously, sex is a very central theme to what drives people. But "it is all about sex" is just as obviously a very cheap polemic, IMO, but if one wants to be forgiving one may assume this polemic merely serves to illustrate that sex can cast a large shadow on ones motivation and society in general one may not always be aware of to the fullest extend.

But if taken literally, I think we can easily and clearly see how it is a cheap polemic when we simplify things by looking at animals. A dog of my family had the ability to escape the property. When the gate was open, he would always run on the street, but he never burden himself with more tricky and strenuous ways to get out, however he clearly could, but only would when some female dog near by was fertile and released corresponding fragrants which reached as far as the familie's dog's noise. The urge to get him some furry vagina seemed to have canceled out all other desires and considerations and gave him unknown determination and strength. Since then we had him castrated to end it. And he is just the same as before - with the exception that he doesn't escape the property anymore to chase some girl. Besides that, he seems to enjoy all the things he enjoed before just as much. Barking at anything moving along the street, chasing birds, getting padded, taunting his family dog companion by very slowly eating treats in front of her, rasing his noise into the wind, running around and exploration, sniffing, pissing at stuff all over the place, ecetera ecetera... Life is rich. But sex is exceptionally powerful. The end

A more interesting question would be in what ways sex drives people and which they may not be aware of. Perhaps that is the point of the thread? Perhaps I followed rule number one of the Internet? Be a literal jerk who only thinks as far as he needs to to write a I-figured-it-all-out-post? Maybe. Also, I want to have sex now.

 

[Kozmos]

That is the relevant question I think. I have a lot of goals and pet projects that are unrelated to sex. Or so I believe. However I notice nearly all of my goals end up 'Demonstrating Value'. Coincidence?

 

[NovaKart]

Is that what they're trying to do? I thought the idea was to make loud noise that pretends to be real music.

Music... let's see. My favorite music is either instrumental, folk, or filk. There's not much of it that focuses on casual sex. One of my favorite filks does deal with the grief a woman feels when her fiance - a pacifist who nevertheless trained as a soldier - goes off to war and ends up sacrificing his life to defeat the enemy ("Michael's Song", based on the novel Lost Dorsai, by Gordon Dickson, sung by Julia Ecklar).

Video games? Nope, not into the kind that brings sex into it, unless you count the "Sim" variety. And even then for me it's more about designing weird-looking houses than anything else.

Media... okay, I'll admit to some TV shows, movies, and books. But nowhere near as much as in the past. Sheesh, these days the books and fanfic I'm reading aren't even science fiction - they're based on Bonanza, and while there are subplots involving the eternal question of "will he find a girlfriend and get married" ('cause anyone who's ever watched Bonanza knows that any time one of the Cartrights intends to court a woman or even get married, she always either dies, runs off, goes to prison, marries someone else, or there's some other reason it never works out), the main story is always about how the family overcomes the problems thrown at them.

@madviking: You also need either glue, needle & thread, or pins & styrofoam.

What is filk?

I'm really surprised to find out there's fan fiction for bonanza.

 

[Gary Childress]

Sex is generally how most of us got here (with the possible exception of any "test tube babies" out there). So I'd say, "yes". Sex is pretty darn important but as Tim points out the urge fades a bit as we get older. But maybe Schopenhauer is right and the thought that we humans contribute anything more significant to the world than offspring is an illusion, I don't know.

 

[MobBoss]

It's not all about sex, but sex is a large component of a lot of stuff.