Kansas does it again....

[downtown]

dont forget good ol' DC, which pretty much banned handguns.

 

[MamboJoel]

I really like CFC OT posting on condoms and oral sex under a Thread titling on abstinence in Kansas.

Things are getting cooler on this issue

 

[IglooDame]

New York prohibts what most other states allow, and, um, Massachusetts?

Good guesses, but both have varying possibilities of getting CCW permits, depending mostly upon what county you're in. In NYC, you pretty much need to be a celebrity or politically-connected though.

@MattBrown: absolutely correct, except for the part where DC isn't a state...

 

[nonconformist]

noncon-what the hell. PM me, and I'll start checking the internet. I'm kinda curious

Sure it won't blow your Mormon mind with depravityu and immorality?
BTW, that wasn't intended to be a pun.

I've never had oral sex, but the idea of using a condom for that just sounds gross. Come to think of it, wearing a condom when one is doing anything other than actual sex just seems akward...surely there are other ways to prevent accidental pregnancy

There's also the funny things that dentists use for operating, the dams, which re useful also, apparently.

From wiki:

Spoiler :

When held over the vagina or anus, a dental dam protects both the person performing oral sex (image) on those body parts and the person receiving it from potential harm from sexually transmitted diseases. A make-shift dental dam can also be created by slicing open a condom horizontally and spreading open the latex, but commercially available dental dams usually have a larger surface area (thus giving better protection).

How I come across such infromation, I don't know.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Sure it won't blow your Mormon mind with depravity and immorality?
BTW, that wasn't intended to be a pun.

I just think it's a little funny that this thread has two Mormon posters.

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

...this time, with SexEd.

I am a parent. I'm quite aware of the possibility that one of my kids is gonna come home and say "Hey, Dad, guess what?" So, yeah, I think abstinence until marriage is a great idea.

I also think Communism is a great idea.

Sadly, neither of them work.

The scientific study on abstinence only sex ed is that it actually increases sexually activity, instead of decreasing it. This may be because the programs are so unrealistic as to be meaningless to teenagers. Countries where sex ed is actual education about sexuality, and not simply sermonizing, have much lower rates of teenage pregnancy and STDs. Much of the trouble with teenage sexual activity may be simply ignorance. What little they know is often based more on rumor than fact, and clearing up misconceptions may go a long way towards wise behavior.

I actually find it repugnant to teach any form of morality in a public school. It is not the government's business to teach children from vastly different backgrounds what their morality should be, any more than it is a public duty to proselytize a religion. Furthermore, it should not even be necessary. Since when do schools, and not parents, share the duty of upbringing children?

 

[Mathilda]

I can see abstinence only working if you're going to get married at age of seventeen. Twenty at the latest. Beyond that it gets redicilious.

Oral sex while using a condom seems especially repulsive to me. I cannot see a way of getting anyone to agree to that (without paying them). Eww.

There at least used to be flavoured ones for that purpose.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Abstinence can actually work longer than that, for some individuals. I am 23 and I know people who have gone longer. But it is not realistic to expect that most people are willing or able to do it. So regardless of my moral feelings on the matter, sex ed it is. I don't want morality taught in schools. They'd be sure to screw it up.

 

[IglooDame]

Abstinence can actually work longer than that, for some individuals. I am 23 and I know people who have gone longer. But it is not realistic to expect that most people are willing or able to do it. So regardless of my moral feelings on the matter, sex ed it is. I don't want morality taught in schools. They'd be sure to screw it up.

Seconded, all the way across.

 

[nonconformist]

I just think it's a little funny that this thread has two Mormon posters.

I think it's amusing that it's becoming more of a "how to have safe sex" thread.

 

[downtown]

noncon-got it. I think I vaugely remember hearing about dams, but that sure wasnt at school. I've never heard anybody actually use them though.

 

[nonconformist]

noncon-got it. I think I vaugely remember hearing about dams, but that sure wasnt at school. I've never heard anybody actually use them though.

Wheras my idea involves some 3 people, and oral sex.

 

[downtown]

Wheras my idea involves some 3 people, and oral sex.

ok, you know what buddy? Nevermind

 

[7ronin]

I think that the public schools have an obligation to teach sex education to children if only because many parents can't or won't. As far as abstinence goes, it is just one of many options that are available and school boards should not be in the business of mandating one over the other.

With regard to my own family, my wife and I tried to give our three (now adult) daughters enough information to make reasoned decisions about their lives. You can't stop kids from having sex if they are determined to do it but you might just influence them to do it responsibly if you honestly explain to them the possible consequences.
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With regard to the business of carrying a concealed handgun, I am generally against the idea. There just isn't enough training involved to ensure that the general public is at less risk than any criminals. I have had to carry a concealed weapon in my former professional life and it is a huge responsibility.

 

[nonconformist]

ok, you know what buddy? Nevermind

You're supposed to answer "Good idea!"

 

[Perfection]

Wasn't there that lady that gave oral sex, and kept some in her mouth, and after the man had gone, scooped it out, and usedit to impregnate herself?

That most certainly wasn't accidental

 

[El_Machinae]

Anyways, you can spread STDs through oral sex, so a condom still has a benefit there - there are more dangers to sex than just pregnancy.

Very true, but fewer people are hurt by passing on an STD than creating a person!

There at least used to be flavoured ones for that purpose.

I just can't imagine asking or getting someone to agree ...

 

[Sahkuhnder]

Wasn't there that lady that gave oral sex, and kept some in her mouth, and after the man had gone, scooped it out, and usedit to impregnate herself?

I'm sure such an article was psoted on CFC.

It could be gathered from the used condom and misused to impregnate too couldn't it?

If that was the goal then the condom use may not be a big factor either way.

 

[Sahkuhnder]

Anyways, you can spread STDs through oral sex, so a condom still has a benefit there - there are more dangers to sex than just pregnancy.

The detriments outweigh the benefits. Ask your more experienced friends and they will confirm this for you.


Younger people are less likely to have STDs than older people who have had more partners. As this is a thread about the teaching of abstinence, presumably concerning sex between like-aged younger people, the STD argument loses much of it's credibility. If you and your partner are both virgins for example the chance of STDs is just this side of zero.

Good generic advice - don't have sex with anyone that has open sores on their mouths or their genitals. There is no shame in discreetly having a close look before making contact.

 

[blackheart]

Good generic advice - don't have sex with anyone that has open sores on their mouths or their genitals. There is no shame in discreetly having a close look before making contact.

If you're really concerned, just ask them straight up.