Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Thread

[PhoenicianGold]

Ashanti - 21 (24 - 3) - No interest here, sorry. I am unaware of any larger regional influence the Asante had and so they feel more properly to be a city-state. Generally speaking I think the Bight just doesn't have any strong candidates for civs under VI's design philosophy. Maybe in VII.
Burma - 20 (19 + 1) - I'm actually surprised both Burma and Tibet are doing so well, and better than Vietnam. It seems like we would only get one or the other, and that people want Tibet but would settle for Burma.
Hebrews - 13
Madagascar - 2
Navajo - 23
Swahili - 20
Tibet - 21
Tlingit - 8
Vietnam - 18

 

[Naktis]

Ashanti - 21
Burma - 20
Hebrews - 13
Madagascar - 3 (2+1) A better option for africa, sadly someone gonna eliminate them.
Navajo - 23
Swahili - 17 (20-3) Better options, at least for me.
Tibet - 21
Tlingit - 8
Vietnam - 18

Strange how Italy used to be quite popular option for many people in these forums and gets eliminated so early here, was expecting atleast top 3 for them.

 

[Edmund Ironside]

Ashanti - 21
Burma - 20
Hebrews - 14 (13+1) Obviously a modern Israel is not an option (they would be pretty controversial). But I'm not sure who is meant to be offended by the ancient Hebrews? They are mentioned in the religious texts of all 3 Abrahamic religions.
Anyone offended by them would have to be a total Philistine!
Aside from this they have by far the most important legacy of all the remaining civilizations (particularly now Italy has sadly departed us). #giveimportanthistoricallegaciesachance
Madagascar - 0 (3-3 ELIMINATED) Madagascar ahead of Italy...
Navajo - 23
Swahili - 17
Tibet - 21
Tlingit - 8
Vietnam - 18

 

[Xandinho]

Strange how Italy used to be quite popular option for many people in these forums and gets eliminated so early here, was expecting atleast top 3 for them.

It is because in these games the negative opinions have triple of force of positive opinions. Colombia is also quite popular and fell fast.

Ashanti - 22 (21+1) Africa needs more love, we are talking about a huge continent with many options of interesting civilizations.
Burma - 20
Hebrews - 14
Navajo - 23
Swahili - 17
Tibet - 21
Tlingit - 5 (8-3) The American continent also needs more love, but I prefer Iroquois, Navajo or Sioux as another native civilization of North America, it's just a personal preference.
Vietnam - 18

 

[fredrikslicer]

Ashanti - 22
Burma - 20
Hebrews - 15
Navajo - 23
Swahili - 17
Tibet - 22 (21 + 1) Tibetan empire or Khoshut would be very interesting.
Tlingit - -1 (2-3) Eliminated, dont find much of interest about them.
Vietnam - 18

 

[679x]

Ashanti - 23 (22+1) We need more African civs. And we could do with one from West Africa (well, one in addition to Mali, which is a civ I wouldn't consider to be a proper representation of the West African region as a whole, even though it technically is part of it). Ashanti could be our civ to represent the polities that resided in what is now Ghana, Togo, Benin, and Nigeria. Is it the best choice for this area? That could be debated. But I sure hope to see at least something from this region, and I certainly wouldn't mind if it were to be the Ashanti Empire.
Burma - 20
Hebrews - 12 (15-3) I'm kind of indifferent about this civ, but that may be because I know absolutely zilch about this nation in history! And maybe I'm wrong to downvote it without actually really knowing anything about it but A: it's getting hard to pick something to downvote because I already do like the remaining civs on here (still not 100% sure about Burma yet), and B: for the purposes of this elimination thread I'd rather pick something from an underrepresented region.
Navajo - 23
Swahili - 17
Tibet - 22
Vietnam - 18

 

[Morningcalm]

We should encourage more people to join in these games so it's not the same dozen or so people (or fewer) every time.

Ashanti - 23
Burma - 20
Hebrews - 12 + 1 = 13 (679x, I already mentioned Hezekiah's revolt against Assyria and the Hebrew religion forming the basis for three Abrahamic faiths, so maybe start your reading there? Hebrews can be represented by the Kingdom of Judah, which had many different cities and covered a fairly broad swathe of land well outside Jerusalem (contrary to people who see Hebrews/Israel as nothing but a Jerusalem city-state). Civ VI having religious victory frankly mandated the inclusion of Hebrews. I don't see how ancient Hebrews could be offensive, as long as a Muslim prophet (David, Solomon, etc) is not chosen as their leader. Hezekiah also had plenty of non-biblical archaeological evidence surrounding his reign, and his responsibility for the Siloam Tunnel, Broad Wall and reformation of the faith are significant achievements, even if he ultimately paid tribute to Assyria after his revolt failed (that said, Jerusalem never fell to Assyria after their army retreated from there). Modern Israel would be controversial, but ancient Hebrews are no more like modern Israel than Silla dynasty Korea is like modern Korea. There's no reason to be indifferent about a faith-based civ when they are relatively uncommon in Civ VI (Arabia, Spain, Georgia, Poland, Khmer, and others with minor faith-based UIs which barely count like Norway, Egypt, etc).
Navajo - 23
Swahili - 17 - 3 =14 Now here's a civ that was definitely just a range of city-states and not a unified kingdom. I think more unified African civs like the Ashanti or Benin deserve more representation, and we already have Muslim Africa representation in Mali/Songhai/Morocco throughout Civ, and trading civs tend to those same ones too.
Tibet - 22
Vietnam - 18

 

[Cave Johnson]

Ashanti - 23
Burma - 20
Hebrews - 13
Navajo - 24 (23+1) This and Ashanti are my favorites atm, but I give another one to this, because I think North America needs a little bit more representation than Africa.
Swahili - 11 (14-3) I have to agree with Morningcalm here, they were not really an empire, and while I do not consider them uninteresting, there are better choices for Africa. Ashanti, for example, is much more appropriate.
Tibet - 22
Vietnam - 18

 

[Amrunril]

Ashanti - 23
Burma - 17 (20 - 3) I haven't seen a convincing argument for this being in the top 5, especially not with another southeast Asian civ.
Hebrews - 13
Navajo - 24
Swahili - 12 (11 + 1) Fills one of the larger geographic and cultural gaps in the current roster , and has a solid potential niche as a trade focused civ.
Tibet - 22
Vietnam - 18

 

[SagarRathore]

Ashanti - 23
Burma - 17
Hebrews - 13
Navajo - 24
Swahili - 9 (12-3) 7th position is good for them.I think Ashanti is better option from Africa.
Tibet - 23(22+1) For me it should be in Top3
Vietnam - 18

 

[AmazonQueen]

Ashanti - 23
Burma - 17
Hebrews - 13-3=10. Not a major power even in the region.
Navajo - 24+1=25. Excellent choice for N. America.
Swahili - 9
Tibet - 23
Vietnam - 18

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Italy will always be number one in my heart so that is where I'll upvote them.

Ashanti - 23
Burma - 17-3=14 Would prefer Vietnam or Siam to return again for another one from SEA.
Hebrews -10
Navajo - 25
Swahili - 9
Tibet - 23
Vietnam - 18+1=19 Different than the rest of SEA by having more of a Chinese influence on their history. Very militaristic and powerful navy throughout centuries.

 

[Leucarum]

It is because in these games the negative opinions have triple of force of positive opinions.

Survival of the blandest? Being innocuous probably helps in this game until the last stages. Modern civs are probably also at a disadvantage since a lot of people find them a incongruous.

Ashanti - 23
Burma - 11 = 14 - 3 Spreading my downvotes a bit as I don't strongly think there is an obvious 'next civ' to eliminate and I'm not as excited by Burma as some others.
Hebrews -10
Navajo - 25
Swahili - 10 = 9 + 1 - The Swahili are pretty distinctive relative to some of the other civs on this list. I don't think it should be their time quite yet.
Tibet - 23
Vietnam - 19

 

[TeddyMain]

Ashanti - 23
Burma - 12 (11+1) Just have to give my most wanted civ of the bunch a few more breaths before its eventual elimination.
Hebrews - 7 (10-3) Competition is getting tough about now, and personally the Hebrews just don't peak my interest compared to the other choices.
Navajo - 25
Swahili - 10
Tibet - 23
Vietnam - 19

 

[BuchiTaton]

Ashanti - 23
Burma - 9 (12-3) I like Burmese history and their interaction with Siamese and Khmers, but I think Vietnam have more to add.
Hebrews - 7
Navajo - 25
Swahili - 10
Tibet - 23
Vietnam -20 (19+1) Like said, Viets could add historical and gameplay elements that distinguish them in a higher degree that Burma in relation of Khmer, Indonesian or the previous Siamese civs.

 

[Jkchart]

Ashanti - 23+1 = 24 = A really cool choice from Africa, never been seen before.
Burma - 9
Hebrews - 7-3 = 4 Look, I'd love for them to make it in, but the reality is pretty grim. And "Hebrews" would be the best way to do it. But out of these, I prefer the others.
Navajo - 25
Swahili - 10
Tibet - 23
Vietnam -20

 

[PhoenicianGold]

Ashanti - 21 (24 - 3) - I'm still not sure why this is such a popular idea. I haven't seen any interesting mechanics proposed, and again the Asante don't seem to do a particularly good job of representing Guinea as a whole. I think their opportunity to be added to VI was Rise and Fall (where we got the Zulu instead) and I don't think whatever theme expack 3 has will cater to "tiny empires." Would much prefer something with a bit of breadth like Morocco, Ethiopia, or the Swahili.
Burma - 9
Hebrews - 5
Navajo - 25
Swahili - 8 (7 + 1) - The argument that they were just a collection of city-states doesn't carry much water in VI. The Maori tribes were never unified. Nor really the Phoenicians or Scythians. Not only has the roster branched out to include cohesive tribal cultures in regions other than the US (Cree, Mapuche), but it has extended that mentality for civ design to other continents. The only continent besides Europe which doesn't have a sprawling ethnic group is Africa, and the Swahili are one of the best options for this kind of culture-oriented civ design, given that they were trading along the West African coast long before Omani expansion. VI has already made clear that it wants to feature more aspects of civilization than rote imperialism: I don't know why people are still beating the "it's not an empire" dead horse.
Tibet - 23
Vietnam -20

 

[fredrikslicer]

Ashanti - 21
Burma - 9
Hebrews - 5
Navajo - 25
Swahili - 5 (8-3) Not a region that really sticks out to me as anything particularly interesting
Tibet - 24 (23+1) It has some rather interesting timeperiods like their Imperial age or the Dual government between mongols and Dalai Lama
Vietnam -20

 

[Krajzen]

Ashanti - 21
Burma - 9+1=10
Hebrews - 5
Navajo - 25-3=22
Swahili - 5
Tibet - 24
Vietnam -20

Navajo: they don't have anything interesting for me besides being related to actually interesting Pueblo people (their little desert civilization). I don't care about representation of every part of native US.

Burma: for me the most underrated South East Asian culture. Really interesting, rich and diverse history and heritage.

 

[Xandinho]

Ashanti - 22 (21+1) I appreciate African culture as a whole, and I find this continent quite underrepresented. Ashanti is a good name for more African representation, as well as Benin and Dahomey. In addition, Yaa Asantewaa would be a good female leader.
Burma - 7 (10-3) I feel like I have to make really difficult choices now, I want all the civs on the list in the game. Something between Vietnam and Burma should be added in a third expansion, I have a slightly higher preference with Vietnam, it would be a really unique design as a cultural/defensive civ. Obviously, if they decide to include Burma, it would be an incredible inclusion as well.
Hebrews - 5
Navajo - 22
Swahili - 5
Tibet - 24
Vietnam - 20