New Tech Tree Playtesting + Feedback

For purely egoistic reasons I would prefer you keep them separate for a while. I don't like change.

 

I really hope you can merge sooner rather than later, there are good changes in both branches and its cool to experience them all...

 

RFCE just introduced a very simple rule which I think makes a lot of sense in the context of our game as well:

Because it is very annoying when both F3 and F7 screens make you go through consecutive turns of anarchy during the paganism -- > major religion conversion. Feels like double taxation.

Again, a very sensible thing to do for any game with rfc-type mechanic. Because AI does not understand historical context and tends to do their thing instead of following designer's ideas about what civics they have to chose. This way AI won't almost always start its first turns with revolutions.

 

Omg, I just knew about this... This could've been useful in my past RFCE games...

 

Still AI tech speed is too fast. This is Regent, Normal, 1700ad, Canada, and AI England, France and Spain have at least 6-7 techs ahead to Canada.

 

General observation: Tech speed too fast in 1700 AD games, too slow for 3000 BC and 600 AD ones...

 

I agree with the previous gentlemen. Even though in my USA game I was able to catch up and overtech Old World in 1700 start with some shrewd tech trading. Humans always have advantage over AI in different trading schemes.

 

I think I've got an idea to solve the problem of AI's too fast tech speed in 1700ad scenerio.

How about make the initial techs of the new civ dynamical? The initial techs depend on the civ who capture the new civ's core area. For example, when America appears in 1775ad, the core area is captured by England, then the initial techs of America could be the same with England, or 1-2 more, or 1-2 less. At the same time, it could be a lower limit in order to prevent the techs too backward.

I don't know if it's easy to achieve in code, but it should be a suitable way.

 

Oh wow, these are all good changes! Russia is going to be needing many Laborers! I hope plague rule affects them as well.

Any chance to address many time discussed situation with Blue Mosque? Istambul was anything but the city with no unhappiness. This wonder under new name is more suitable for some East Asian city like Ayutthaya, especially given the fact that we don't have Thai wonder in the game. Some UNESCO site could be appropriate, for example Wat Ratchaburana. Of course if you can find suitable art for it (the most common impediment).

 

Not a fan of workers dying to plague, but it seems worth a shot. Everything else seems solid.

 

I've always loved the idea of spawning with dynamical techs. When America achieved independence, it didn't start out with all of the most cutting age technologies. In fact, it was probably behind in technology for the first 50 years at least. It could be argued that America had the most advanced "social technologies", such as Democracy, but it certainly was not ahead in technology overall, which is what can often happen when spawning with non-dynamical techs.

 

Newly spawned civs tend to have bad research for a long time so for gameplay it's probably for the best if USA is way ahead on spawn

 

i have a question , what setting is better to test the tech tree. I test all scenario with monarch and all speed level and i never see a fairly tech progress. With Spain reach the 2 first uhv before even one other european found a colony. On the other hand i never could reach the portuguese uhv because of the low techspeed. But i'm a really try harder so ! I just want to know if is there a base setting for playtesting ?