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Most of that is also true of Latin America, the colonizers there just mixed with the Natives a lot more than the US/Canadian ones did.
You're seriously going to sit there and claim that you haven't been an OT regular long enough to be at least passively aware that this is one of the particular things about Canada/US that pushes my buttons and I tend to get angry about it?
Think of how upset some people in the UK get if you mix up the identities of England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland/Northern Ireland. Nobody likes to be referred to by an identity they don't acknowledge, whether personal or as part of where they live, and the country they live in.
You're sitting smugly on the other side of the world, 'splaining my own geopolitical/cultural identity to me, and it would be really appreciated if you would STOP.
Canada is Canada. We're an independent country. The country may be located on the North American continent, but we are not, never have been, and hopefully never will be, "American."
Hygro can speak for himself, if he wants to clarify things, hopefully without doubling down.
Yep. The thing is, we get so much U.S. media here - TV, movies, music, and over 20 years ago our right-wing politicians started importing sleazy right-wing American political tactics. This has become more and more troublesome as the years have gone by, so now we're in our current situation. My own current premier should just admit that he's in love with All Things Texan, and apply for U.S. citizenship. He'd love it - all the abusive, control-freak things he wants to do here are already going on there. He'd fit right in.
By "the hat" are you referring to the notion that Canada is "America's hat"?The hat seems aloof from here, often as not.
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I kid I kid. As neighbors go, it's hard to ask for a hell of a lot better, probably. Pretty normal for international people who come on student visas to show up at university, then look around shell-shocked at all the non-rich people.
My response to that is this: Alaska makes a cute little pompom on the top of the toque.
The Pope is currently on a "pilgrimage" to Canada to apologize in person for the atrocities committed by the Catholic church against the indigenous people (residential schools, specifically). The idea behind these places was to forcibly "Christianize" the indigenous children - take away their names, language, beliefs, ceremonies, and "re-educate" them to assimilate into white culture.
The results were mixed... at best. At worst, the results included dead children. Lots and lots of unmarked graves that are being found, and that the deniers keep insisting are because the kids all died of TB and weren't abused at all.
I could go on, but it would definitely be off-topic.
The Pope's visit has been a spectacular display of tone-deafness on the part of church officials and politicians. Women carrying cradleboards being kicked out of events they were actually invited to, bishops asking for "donations" to offset their expenses (let the Pope pay for it; it's not like the Vatican isn't swimming in money and property and expensive doodads), indigenous doctors being asked to "volunteer" to work at these events (doctors get paid in this country; unless they specifically volunteer for some charitable organization, they don't work for free).
Well, it's not my say as to whether his apologies should be accepted. That's up to the individuals affected. Some are okay with it, but a lot of them aren't. This isn't one of those things where people can or should say, "It happened in the past, get over it already". The last residential school closed just 30 years ago. This isn't going to be over for decades.
Oh, and in an attempt to say something that is on-topic... there have been more and more reports of indigenous women being sterilized against their will. So I guess the anti-choice brigade wants more fetuses, but they have to be born the "right" ethnicity/color. We're sadly not short of right-wing politicians who would love to enact abortion bans.
Hygro
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As much as I appreciate the America is for ‘muricans only support to our linguistic jingoism, and I do, most the rest of people in the American continents see themselves as American the way one would see themself as both say French and European. I was definitely referring to American countries as Arwon recognized.
I have discussed with, heard of, and read Central and South Americans who refer to themselves as American as a continental identity and take offense to the monopolism of the term by US Americans. Not dissimilar to the umbrage you take as a Canadian on the issue. The difference being in Canada, your one and only neighbor and culturally similar continentally American country is “America” while for most the rest of Central and South America, there are many neighbors, none are the USA, all consider themselves American to varying degrees of caring, and the USA is largely a distant thought to their cultural identity.
I have discussed with, heard of, and read Central and South Americans who refer to themselves as American as a continental identity and take offense to the monopolism of the term by US Americans. Not dissimilar to the umbrage you take as a Canadian on the issue. The difference being in Canada, your one and only neighbor and culturally similar continentally American country is “America” while for most the rest of Central and South America, there are many neighbors, none are the USA, all consider themselves American to varying degrees of caring, and the USA is largely a distant thought to their cultural identity.
You're missing my point. I have no objection to referring to Canada as a North American country. That's what it is, and we do share many political and cultural traits between our countries. The Central American countries have been well-represented here for a long time, with immigrants and refugees coming here, some staying and becoming citizens, and bringing their languages and cultures with them.
But that does NOT make us American. North American? Yeah, and I do get your France/Europe analogy. American? No. There is a difference.
BTW, we are neighbors to two other countries besides the U.S., but not in any way that seriously matters in the day-to-day scheme of things. There are two islands off the coast of Newfoundland - St-Pierre and Miquelon - that belong to France, and of course Greenland belongs to Denmark. Canada and Denmark have been arguing for ages as to which of us owns a small island between Greenland and Ellesmere Island.
Earlier this year, a solution was found: Hans Island is now divided between Canada and Denmark, making Denmark the second country with whom we have a shared land border.
Hygro
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That's rich to tell me I'm missing a point.
Planned Parenthood sues to block a third Idaho abortion ban
The law in question would ban all abortions prior to six weeks of pregnancy except in cases of rape, incest or in the case of a “medical emergency.”
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Planned Parenthood sues to block a third Idaho abortion ban
There are advocates that are going to act as if using lawyers and courts are a viable (if insufficient) line-of-defense. They might be right. My position is that no one should expect them to work for free and you want them funded and active before the crisis, not afterwards.
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So to be clear, when the bloke said several American countries have extremely restrictive abortion laws, you thought he must be talking about Canada as opposed to Guatemala or Chile?
That's always been what it's been about. Every time the anti-abortion movement gains traction there's always an undercurrent of "the good christian WASP people aren't having enough babies and we're going to be overrun by (Irish/Catholics/Eastern Europeans/Natives/Blacks/Hispanics/Muslims)"
Zardnaar
Deity
Generally I think of Americans as USians.
But technically anyone living in the Americas north or south is an American so I'm not gonna nit pick the point.
I don't identify as an Australsian technically I am one so there's that.
But technically anyone living in the Americas north or south is an American so I'm not gonna nit pick the point.
I don't identify as an Australsian technically I am one so there's that.
Read my whole post, and think about what I say in connection to what I was replying to. And realize that we have right-wing politicians here who would do everything they could to enact similar bans, if they didn't know it would be political suicide to do so, not to mention making themselves open to multiple challenges of it being unconstitutional and a violation of Charter and human rights.
Realize as well that there are plenty of communities near the border in both countries that serve each other in medical-related ways. This is usually due to the long distances between places in each country where such medical services are available. This ban has turned these normal cross-border cooperative relations into a chaotic mess of uncertainty and Canada's full intention to help any woman who needs such services, regardless of which country she's from.
Did I not just explain why this is not true?
Zardnaar
Deity
Read my whole post, and think about what I say in connection to what I was replying to. And realize that we have right-wing politicians here who would do everything they could to enact similar bans, if they didn't know it would be political suicide to do so, not to mention making themselves open to multiple challenges of it being unconstitutional and a violation of Charter and human rights.
Realize as well that there are plenty of communities near the border in both countries that serve each other in medical-related ways. This is usually due to the long distances between places in each country where such medical services are available. This ban has turned these normal cross-border cooperative relations into a chaotic mess of uncertainty and Canada's full intention to help any woman who needs such services, regardless of which country she's from.
Did I not just explain why this is not true?
Well is is true from the point you live on the American continent.
So in that context you're an American not a USian though.
Just like I'm technically Australasian not that we use that term to self idendify.
racha
Prince
Actually, technically and literally, you're Australian, in the same way that inhabitants of little England are Europeans (their fantasies of still having an empire notwithstanding). I also think USian should become a "word" for want of a better term.
Zardnaar
Deity
Explain the Australian thing? I've never been there.
I don't regard myself as European but I'm not offended if you say of European descent, post colonial mongrel, kiwi, pakeha etc.
racha
Prince
Australia is the continent. New Zealand is just an offshoot, though John Oliver is quite right in pointing out how unfairly maligned the Kiwis are with people frequently leaving them off maps.
Zardnaar
Deity
It's not on the continent we're actually on Zealandia. 90% of it is under water
Zealandia - Wikipedia
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racha
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Have an upvote for educating me, plus an invisible upvote for beautiful scenery.
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Darn skippy.
I tried to port over the interesting parts of this discussion to the Today I Learned thread, but the quoting is .... weird. Anyway, topic drift!
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