Scientists in Italy go on trial for failing to predict earthquake

That is a very ignorant statement on many levels.

And for your knowledge, the Vatican IS ITS OWN STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I realize I wont be doing stand-up but didn't the smilie provide y'all with any information? And I didn't say the Vatican wasn't a state, I said Italy was its home. Nice strawman.

:lol: Jesus Christ, maybe you and civ-king can chip in and rent a sense of humor for the internet.
 
After these scientists, I say we go after meteorologists, since they are so often wrong about the weather, it is absolutely criminal that they get away with getting the weather predictions wrong. [pissed]

That'd be almost genocidal you do realise? What sentence do you suggest?

I'd go for throwing them into a lake with weights tied to their feet, for all the rainstorms they said wouldn't happen which did.
 
The seven were placed under investigation almost a year ago, and today L'Aquila Judge Giuseppe Romano Gargarella announced that they will be tried. According to the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, Gargarella said that the seven defendants had supplied "imprecise, incomplete and contradictory information," in a press conference following a meeting held by the committee 6 days before the quake. In doing so, they "thwarted the activities designed to protect the public," the judge said.

During the meeting on 31 March 2009—which also included other researchers from the INGV, city officials and representatives of the Civil Protection Department—committee vice chair Barberi, one of the seven to be tried, said there were no grounds for thinking that a major quake was imminent, even though the area around the town had been experiencing a series of smaller tremors in the previous months. In the press briefing afterward, prosecutors say, the commission made statements that gave the town's people a false sense of security.

http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2011/05/italian-scientists-to-stand-trial.html

No grounds for thinking that a major quake was imminent. I suppose they should've said "although it's always possible" to clarify for all these dumdums that didn't do their own homework.

Totally unbelievable, though. Let's hope international ridicule will be enough to change their minds.
 
If I was a seismologist in Italy, I'd just say every single day an earthquake is imminent just to be on the safe side. :D


The judge said the defendants "gave inexact, incomplete and contradictory information" about whether smaller tremors in L'Aquila six months before the 6.3 magnitude quake on 6 April, which killed more than 300 people, should have been viewed as warning signs of the subsequent disaster.

This seems to be the main thing they are charged with. But I just can't seem manslaughter. Negligent homicide might make more sense, but even that is far fetched.
 
Better sue economists for failing to predict the financial crisis :rolleyes:
 
Congrats to the article quoted in the first post for being so splendidly vague.
The tribunal of l'Aquila wanted to check what happened precisely during the meeting that happened a week before the earthquake. From the memory of the DA:

"The intent, then, is not to formulate against the defendants, a posteriori (that is, after the earthquake), a reproach for failing to predict the destructive tremor of 6 April 2009, or not launching alarm cries of imminent massive shocks, or not ordering the city to be evacuated; instead, the intent is to analyze their course of action [...], on date 31 March 2009, in the light of law prescriptions and on the ground of historical, statistical and scientific data then available and known to them".
 
Italian here.

Fox news tell *******.

Enzo Boschi ( and 7 more "experts" ) were called at Aquila to do a estimate about possibile big earthquakes due to a rise of the usual seismic activity.

They said it was all ok.

And guess what happened not even a week after...?

Aquila_terremoto.jpg


Those dudes aren't freelancers, they are in a state commission with the precise duty to analize and alarm about natural disasters...
 
Italian here.

Fox news tell *******.

Enzo Boschi ( and 7 more "experts" ) were called at Aquila to do a estimate about possibile big earthquakes due to a rise of the usual seismic activity.

They said it was all ok.

And guess what happened not even a week after...?

Aquila_terremoto.jpg


Those dudes aren't freelancers, they are in a state commission with the precise duty to analize and alarm about natural disasters...

So maybe their findings showed that there was no danger. Maybe they made a mistake, maybe they didn't. Either way, since when does making a mistake regarding something that is EXTREMELY hard to predict anyay, warrant criminal charges?

Face it, the Italian government is just trying to find someone to blame for the disaster to keep the people from pointing the finger at them.
 
So maybe their findings showed that there was no danger. Maybe they made a mistake, maybe they didn't. Either way, since when does making a mistake regarding something that is EXTREMELY hard to predict anyay, warrant criminal charges?

Face it, the Italian government is just trying to find someone to blame for the disaster to keep the people from pointing the finger at them.

They weren't asked to predict the exact future, but just if big earthquakes were possibile... They said not.

Yes, they did a mistake... a mistake called negligence.

Or you want to tell me that supposed world-class experts can't even do that?
It's they damn job.
 
Italian here.

Fox news tell *******.

Enzo Boschi ( and 7 more "experts" ) were called at Aquila to do a estimate about possibile big earthquakes due to a rise of the usual seismic activity.

They said it was all ok.

And guess what happened not even a week after...?

Aquila_terremoto.jpg


Those dudes aren't freelancers, they are in a state commission with the precise duty to analize and alarm about natural disasters...

Earthquakes can't be predicted. A rise in small quakes is not predictive of a large quake to come. The best seismologists can do (and will do) is to give a likelihood over a given time frame.

Every last bit of current geological understanding would lead to the conclusion that the smaller quakes are not necessarily indicative of an increased risk. The scientists gave the public the best information science has to date, and you want to put them on trial? That's... frankly that's incredibly stupid.

Now, if you want to put on trial engineers who build crappy buildings, or state officials who don't require very old buildings to be made safer, I'd agree.
 
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