Single Player bugs and crashes - After the 16th of May

[strategyonly]

When I load the new SVN, load my last game, do the recalc and finish the turn I get an immediate CTD. No problem with yesterday´s SVN. Attached is the minidump.

Did you delete the Cache FIRST!!

 

[Snofru1]

Did you delete the Cache FIRST!!

I never did so in the past and didn´t have issues then...

But now I loaded a later save with the new SVN, cleared the cache and it seems to run fine. Thanks for the hint!

 

[strategyonly]

I never did so in the past and didn´t have issues then...

But now I loaded a later save with the new SVN, cleared the cache and it seems to run fine. Thanks for the hint!

Yeah, it has changed, it was 37 files i believe now its 84 files, so deleting it everytime you change the SVN or play some other mod is a MUST!.

 

[Koshling]

I checked through my saves, and they all failed to load until some thirty turns back. I ran a couple of turns (past the point where the original saves failed), and the new saves load fine... so it looks non-deterministic for the moment, though I can't be sure I did everything precisely the same. If I run into it again, I'll see if I can get a reproducible case.

Do saves build on themselves? Perhaps a fault in a save that was propagated to subsequent saves?

Saves are not chained or layered in any way. A load restores the game state from a save then throws it away. A save decants the game state into a fresh (and totally independent) save.

 

[Koshling]

When I load the new SVN, load my last game, do the recalc and finish the turn I get an immediate CTD. No problem with yesterday´s SVN. Attached is the minidump.

Minidump is useful. It doesn't totally identify the issue, but it points to an area and I have a theory - will be an update later today to attempt to address it.

 

[Koshling]

Yeah, it has changed, it was 37 files i believe now its 84 files, so deleting it everytime you change the SVN or play some other mod is a MUST!.

Nope - I also enhanced the detection mechanisms that determine if a cache rebuild is needed (and fixed a bug in the existing code in that area) - it will auto-rebuild the cache when it needs to - you should NEVER need to manually delete it (if you do that indicates a bug).

The reported crash is not related to the cache.

 

[civfan613]

I use SVN now, with daily updating, so I do have the latest version.
Why do some animals still use knight-style graphics???
It's a bug from long ago, probably told endless times...
Or is it by any chance some kind of memory limitations-based???
Also, there was a promise of better performance, but I still need to wait nearly a minute per turn on GEM even while still minor.
The 30+ civs one, of course.
The AI part I can't tell, cause I never check them.
I love this mod, but it is troublesome to wait so long...

 

[Stormwind]

I use SVN now, with daily updating, so I do have the latest version.
Why do some animals still use knight-style graphics???
It's a bug from long ago, probably told endless times...
Or is it by any chance some kind of memory limitations-based???
Also, there was a promise of better performance, but I still need to wait nearly a minute per turn on GEM even while still minor.
The 30+ civs one, of course.
The AI part I can't tell, cause I never check them.
I love this mod, but it is troublesome to wait so long...

Uncheck Animations Frozen in den Civ4 graphics options.

 

[civfan613]

And how will that help?
And with what exactly - I said a few things?

 

[Stormwind]

And how will that help?
And with what exactly - I said a few things?

That will show the right models for all units.

 

[civfan613]

Thanks then.
Though it's WEIRD...

 

[climat]

Also, there was a promise of better performance, but I still need to wait nearly a minute per turn on GEM even while still minor.
The 30+ civs one, of course.
The AI part I can't tell, cause I never check them.
I love this mod, but it is troublesome to wait so long...

Your computer is just too low-spec for it. Reduce numbers of civs or/and use other smaller maps if you can't bear waiting.

 

[civfan613]

Funny.
Nothing new and nothing to do with my computer.
It's the Civ4's core exe problem, already discussed many times - single core processor ONLY.
Mine is dual, so it doesn't benefit from it.
And I WANT to play GEM - why else would people even make it?

 

[DRJ]

Well I do play it just in fine speed compared to way back when a turn took 5 min. In my recent 30 civ GEM game I am late classical now and a turn takes around 30 sec with all the new stuff Koshling put up in the SVN (thx!!!) - sometimes I even can't get to read in the book I have for in between turns But I like this kind of annoyance (Btw check out the speed up turns option in BUG menu... imo it really speeds up the turns but isn't default activated)

Back to thread topic: I found a little curiosity regarding the Great Wall graphics. While it is very cool the GW graphics update with every switch of the viewport (so by placing fortresses you can have a wall around all of your empire one day ), I recognized that unclaimed territory surrounded by your own territory has no GW graphics around it
and a further question: would the AI spawn barbs there, not knowing it can't get into my territory because GW disables that and therefore any spawn there would be blocked and useless?

 

[strategyonly]

Nope - I also enhanced the detection mechanisms that determine if a cache rebuild is needed (and fixed a bug in the existing code in that area) - it will auto-rebuild the cache when it needs to - you should NEVER need to manually delete it (if you do that indicates a bug).

The reported crash is not related to the cache.

HUH it just happened to me today Because the invisible/camo units WERE invisible, and i re-loaded and it even came back with the pop-up for Comp check(even though i just Re-comp'ed it before the game started and i saved it), just weird.

 

[Koshling]

Well I do play it just in fine speed compared to way back when a turn took 5 min. In my recent 30 civ GEM game I am late classical now and a turn takes around 30 sec with all the new stuff Koshling put up in the SVN (thx!!!) - sometimes I even can't get to read in the book I have for in between turns But I like this kind of annoyance (Btw check out the speed up turns option in BUG menu... imo it really speeds up the turns but isn't default activated)

Back to thread topic: I found a little curiosity regarding the Great Wall graphics. While it is very cool the GW graphics update with every switch of the viewport (so by placing fortresses you can have a wall around all of your empire one day ), I recognized that unclaimed territory surrounded by your own territory has no GW graphics around it
and a further question: would the AI spawn barbs there, not knowing it can't get into my territory because GW disables that and therefore any spawn there would be blocked and useless?

Barbs can spawn anywhere in neutral territory, so yes they could spawn there too (tough for them!)

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Nope - I also enhanced the detection mechanisms that determine if a cache rebuild is needed (and fixed a bug in the existing code in that area) - it will auto-rebuild the cache when it needs to - you should NEVER need to manually delete it (if you do that indicates a bug).

Interesting, I had a problem yesterday and the solution was to delete the cache. Maybe it was game option related, I was switching between mods checking stuff out and that is known to cause problems with game options.

Back to thread topic: I found a little curiosity regarding the Great Wall graphics. While it is very cool the GW graphics update with every switch of the viewport (so by placing fortresses you can have a wall around all of your empire one day ), I recognized that unclaimed territory surrounded by your own territory has no GW graphics around it

Normal in BtS and other mods as far as I have seen.

and a further question: would the AI spawn barbs there, not knowing it can't get into my territory because GW disables that and therefore any spawn there would be blocked and useless?

Indeed your own personal wild life refuge to train your to troops in.

 

[Snofru1]

When I have multiple ships lying at the cost (not in a city!) and send units aboard then they automatically board the ships with the smallest number of movement points. This is totally wrong and a real nuisance as I can´t control it. Units should always board the ship with the most movement points so I can send them as quickly as possibly to their target. Or at least I´d like to have a selection as I have when I board ships in a city.

 

[Koshling]

Interesting, I had a problem yesterday and the solution was to delete the cache. Maybe it was game option related, I was switching between mods checking stuff out and that is known to cause problems with game options.

If you find a reproducible recipe let me know and I'll look into it. The sequence that checks cache validity does the following:

1) Checksums the modification dates of all asset files (XML principally)
2) Loads the header of the existing cache and verifies that:
2.1) The checksum it just calculated in (1) matches that stored in the cache (so assets match)
2.2) The caching header version itself matches (so the loading code in the DLL has not changed)
3) If both checks in (2) are matches it uses the existing cache from the 'Cache' sub-folder of the mod folder, else it loads the XML from scratch and writes out a new cache

 

[Taxman66]

Yeah, it has changed, it was 37 files i believe now its 84 files, so deleting it everytime you change the SVN or play some other mod is a MUST!.

I'm not an SVN user (but I like to read and keep up with what is going on). Is this 'clear the cache before playing after playing a different mod' going to be required for v31 (and future) releases? Please say no... that will be a big headache for my household with mutliple players (including kids) using different mods whom I don't want mucking around with files. Thanks in advance.