I am replying because I took over Pests from Hydromancerx.
hmm... would be nice if a building didn't have it's prereqs met and it was an autobuilding that it removed itself at that point. Only seems natural that way. I didn't realize there was no check being done on that. Could be a really slow spot in the code if not done just right though.
It is Hydromancerx specific design choice that he asked Thunderbrd and I to preserve. Just like all his other prodigious work he put into the Mod. Which is now being changed by new modders.
Noriad2's city was once a size 14 (had to be to get Gophers). But thru pop reduction he has dropped it down voluntarily ot perhaps thru attrition from war. So you are saying that the pest should just go away because the player reduced the city's size? Do animals leave an area when human pop reduces? For the most part in the real world no they don't
Okay, but what is the reasoning? Also it is pretty unreasonable for anyone to expect their work to be preserved unchanged in this mod once they pass it on. If they want that they should make a mod mod. The most people should expect is their name to remain in the credits.
Most of the buildings in C2C are Hydromancerx's work. He was here from the beginning and was 2nd to StrategyOnly for sometime. Thru personal affinity from StrategyOnly and the then Mod team and with respect for his prodigious efforts, much of his work is still intact. C2C would not have 1/2 the content it has now without Hydro's efforts. Even a Mod such as C2C Must respect those that laid the foundation that others are working off of. Dancing Hoskuld is another Modder of such distinction and has been here from the Mod's inception like Hydro. He too was at one time Lead Designer.
That's one example, perhaps, though I'm thinking more of the situation where there is suddenly no grain access in an area so the crows should no longer be sticking around, more like that. And I suppose if gophers only came around because the city was size 14 or higher, then why would they not leave if it shrunk? I mean, gophers plaguing a city on the basis of its size to begin with seems just as much a stretch since they are usually a more rural hazard anyhow. But hey, there's a lot that I could criticize about the pests implementation that would take massive project size efforts to improve on. It's a thing and I'm not hating it... just making observations. I'm thinking more of the overall process of autobuilds than just pests.
Have you tried a 2nd time? And did it generate a dumpfile in the BtS exe folder?
Do you try to be a jerk? Seriously. lolGophers are from the increased agriculture in any form around a city. I guess you have forgotten much about the purpose and foundation for Pests by Hydro.
And it was you that made the promise to preserve his work. Have you forgotten that as well?
And there's the rub. Who says it's not working as designed? In fact on this subject Pests it is. Those that follow need to respect the effort of what came before, just sayin'.
Like the Scarecrow building other buildings could be built to deal with a "pest" problem. But employing a game hack (reduction of city pop on purpose) should not imo be the basis for change. No matter who wants it.
As designed isn't the same as correctly, if other stuff changes, or if everyone else disagrees with the design then working "as designed" doesn't really say much!
Definitely, but we can't keep every line of code and xml that anyone ever worked on the same in perpetuity obviously. So we have to change things at some point. The question is only then under what circumstances *do* we change things? My argument would be when nobody can explain why something works the way it does, and /or almost everyone thinks it is wrong, that is a good reason to consider changing it. I'm not saying that is the case here, but that would be my criteria in general.
And how am I being a jerk? Is reminding of the past now not a correct thing to do? (And yes I see the lol.
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