It's the fact that cooked starch is so easy to digest and so easy to incorporate that's the problem.
Sugar is toxic
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warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
The digestive problems only apply to some carbs - I didn't mean to include sugars in that. I lump them together because for the purposes of this diet they are the same thing as far as my body is concerned.
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I think I need to revisit what I'm eating and make sure that there's enough fiber - I'm pretty sure there is but I haven't exactly checked. I only really found out about the fiber thing when one guy on reddit/r/keto started complaining that he had issues and that a lack of fiber in his diet was the problem.
I bought a giant bag of broccoli the other day and have been eating some every day; I think broccoli has a lot of fiber in it although I haven't exactly checked. I used to hate the stuff but once you put butter and cheese on it and serve with bacon - it's edibly delicious
Broccoli is pretty good. 15 calories / gram of fiber. The fiber is 50:50 soluble:insoluble. 1/3 of the calories are from protein, so you're eating about 10 calories of carbs for one gram of fiber.
LucyDuke
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Pfft, shows how much you know.
Do you have any sources that at least pretend to be unbiased?
innonimatu
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Well, eating some won't kill you. But I haven't seen anyone using them as food, for sure! Even where coca is traditionally cultivated and used you are supposed to chew them and spit out the remains after a while, not eat the things. Afaik
About this whole good foods/bad foods talk, I though some people might find this interesting. Especially the vegetarians - there might still be hope of them rethinking whatever advice made them vegetarian.
LucyDuke
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I quit meat mostly because of the way it's produced, not its role as food. So I can understand why someone would want others not to eat it, but it baffles me that people want others to eat it. 
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Narz
keeping it real
If you'd taken the time to snap out of instant reply mode & actually looked at what I posted you'd see it's a chapter from a book. Unfortunately they don't list the sources on the webpage (they're in the back of the book).
People having an opinion on the subject doesn't invalidate what they say. I strongly believe rape is wrong so if I make an anti-rape site with facts about how rape is bad I shouldn't be believed?
Scientists perhaps should attempt to be dispassionate (though they must be motivated to study things in the first place) but people relying their findings shouldn't be (otherwise who would listen). Western society seems to have a real problem with passion (hence insults like "climate alarmist").
heh, well I've never done cocaine but I've had enough drugs put into my system so I'll pass. Plus what I've read about how cocaine affects the brain is enough for me to stay away!
Not sure if you meant that to be a good question but actually it is. When does something go from a food to a mere food extract, Michael Pollen says you shouldn't eat anything our ancestors wouldn't recognize as food but that's a little extreme IMO. Juice is fruit/veggie extract with quite a bit of nutrient left behind in the pulp but I'd still conisder it a food. When something is basically stripped down to the molecular level of almost everything that makes it what it is I'd say, at that point it's no longer a food but a drug (whether it is a pharmaceutical, street drug or food additive). Would you agree, for instance, that it's a little disingenuous for the HFCS ads to say "hey, its made of healthy corn/it's a corn product". It's true HFCS is made from corn but it is not corn.
Anyway, if you (and others) still don't agree that's fine but if you still don't understand I don't think I can make it any more clear. Sry.
Of course I do. Try not to be a dick.
Coca leaves could be used as food, animals will eat them.
fwiw : http://talkingaboutcolombia.com/2012/01/31/famous-peruvian-chef-uses-coca-leaves-in-recipes/
Define 'animals', because there'almost nothing organic that can't be eaten by members of the animal kingdom.
And I'm not trying to be a dick, sorry if it came out like that.
In that case it's used as a spice or seasoning. I've seen people eat ice cream sprinkled with gold dust onceNarz said:
I don't think that view is extreme, but I'm pretty sure our ancestors would have recognized juice as food.
Narz
keeping it real
That's true, life will break stuff down & consume it. Interestingly I once put some Oreos in a compost bin & they seemed remarkably resistant to breakdown despite being surrounded by roting stuff everywhere.
Ok, no prob. Perhaps I'm overreacting, I get that way when I feel like I'm being misunderstood.
Now that's extravagant!In that case it's used as a spice or seasoning. I've seen people eat ice cream sprinkled with gold dust once
Narz
keeping it real
It's extreme to most people. I don't think I eat too much that might be unrecognizable. Maybe (rice) pasta. I agree that would recognize juice as a food but probably not table sugar.
LucyDuke
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I figured it'd come across as a joke.
I agree that it's disingenuous to pretend that the source of the substances in HFCS has any bearing on what it is: sugar and water. Like 99% of honey. What I don't understand is why candy made by bees is sooo much better than candy made in a factory, but oh well whatever.
Can't you get non-feedlot meat in 'Merica?I quit meat mostly because of the way it's produced, not its role as food. So I can understand why someone would want others not to eat it, but it baffles me that people want others to eat it.
Oreos are just superior.
It was meant to make the ice-cream cost $25000 and make whoever was eating it break the Guinness World Record for the most expensive ice-cream ever.Narz said:Now that's extravagant!
What's wrong with rice pasta?
LucyDuke
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You can get any kind of meat you want. It's just not worth it to me to seek out humane meat and pay the real price, I'm perfectly happy to just go without.
