The Army - Why Haven't You Joined Yet?

People would be forced to salute me, call me "captain", and I would have an especially spiffy uniform with more stars and such. :)
Well, most of the doctors I knew in the Army didn't seem to think too much of the saluting (which was pretty much outdoors only, generally). Enlisted people only have to salute when encountering officers, but officers pretty much either salute, or return the salute of, anyone of a different rank. I was in Turkey for a couple of weeks at a field hospital, and one of the first things the hospital commander did was tell us that the hospital area was a no-salute zone, because the doctors and nurses didn't want to have to deal with it.

On the other hand, after I left the Army and got a job at a hospital laboratory, the doctors and nurses seemed to really enjoy when I was assigned to venipuncture in the E.R., because I carried over my habit of addressing them as "Sir" or "Ma'am" (not every time I talked to them, but enough for them to appreciate the show of respect). :lol:
 
The military can go screw itself. I will never join the military unless my life was in peril (like if the country was being invaded)
 
Well, most of the doctors I knew in the Army didn't seem to think too much of the saluting (which was pretty much outdoors only, generally). Enlisted people only have to salute when encountering officers, but officers pretty much either salute, or return the salute of, anyone of a different rank. I was in Turkey for a couple of weeks at a field hospital, and one of the first things the hospital commander did was tell us that the hospital area was a no-salute zone, because the doctors and nurses didn't want to have to deal with it.

On the other hand, after I left the Army and got a job at a hospital laboratory, the doctors and nurses seemed to really enjoy when I was assigned to venipuncture in the E.R., because I carried over my habit of addressing them as "Sir" or "Ma'am" (not every time I talked to them, but enough for them to appreciate the show of respect). :lol:

Hospitals are almost always no-salute zones in my experience - I'm guessing there's also the pain in the ass of patients thinking they need to salute their doctors, or possibly vice versa.

Unless you're Patton, military discipline should be relaxed at the ER doors.
 
Erik Mesoy, if you have mental problems, I don't think you should join. I wouldn't wanna go to war, with people whom I couldn't trust 100%. Plus in war you might experience things that screw your mind. If your mind is already screwed, who knows what could happen?
 
While I don't doubt your ability to "appear normal" (for lack of a better phrase) during an interview, be aware that the doctor and various MEPS staff folks that interview you may be experts or close to it in uncovering issues.
Well, no, It's impossible to hide from anyone looking for it! ;)

Erik Mesoy, if you have mental problems, I don't think you should join.
I'm not actively trying to join, but I'm not trying to weasel out at any cost either. I'm against joining as long as the Iraq Insert-Euphemism continues, but I figure that I probably won't be called in (for reasons you mention), and if I am, I am very unlikely to be sent there.

I wouldn't wanna go to war, with people whom I couldn't trust 100%. Plus in war you might experience things that screw your mind. If your mind is already screwed, who knows what could happen?
Most of the people I know say that they're far more willing to trust me than anyone else. I don't know why. You may want to see this and determine whether you think I'm really "screwed" or just an oddity within acceptable parameters. (For example, are soldiers allowed to bring nonessential items such as lucky charms on missions if they could get lost or tangled into things? I don't know how strict the rules are on that.)

Also, is there no point in giving details on "things that screw your mind" that I've seen, as that would make me seem more screwy in direct proportion to the degree to which it makes it seem less likely that something "could happen" if I see more such things? :p IglooDude can probably confirm some of this, anyway. (Smoking holes and all that. ;))
 
Erik Mesoy, if you have mental problems, I don't think you should join. I wouldn't wanna go to war, with people whom I couldn't trust 100%. Plus in war you might experience things that screw your mind. If your mind is already screwed, who knows what could happen?
It could be screwed back to normal? :p
 
Hospitals are almost always no-salute zones in my experience - I'm guessing there's also the pain in the ass of patients thinking they need to salute their doctors, or possibly vice versa.
Inside, yeah. No shouting "attention" when an officer walks in either. I was in the lab... do you really want me dropping and ruining a specimen because someone with railroad tracks on his collar walked in the room? :)

This was a field hospital, though, a collection of tents, and we were told not to salute at all. Heck, we were told not to bother saluting if we were outside the field hospital area and we knew the officer was part of the hospital. If we were outside the hospital area (around the PX trailer, the shower/laundry area, etc.) and weren't sure, we were told to go ahead and salute, 'cause apparently some of the Reserve officers could get touchy about it. :)
 
Just a question. In an all volunteer Army, why haven't you volunteered to do your part?
I attended a military school or two in my life. The lifestyle wasn't for me. (Not my decision--theirs)

Military life requires a certain kind of mental discipline I simply don't have. My brain is always wandering and my imagination is always playing silly buggers with me. Can't have that in the military--not on the battlefield, and not behind a desk either. You don't want my brain wandering when I'm staring at the CIA file of some guy who's planning to hijack a 747 and fly it into a skyscraper........
 
I attended a military school or two in my life. The lifestyle wasn't for me. (Not my decision--theirs)

Military life requires a certain kind of mental discipline I simply don't have. My brain is always wandering and my imagination is always playing silly buggers with me. Can't have that in the military--not on the battlefield, and not behind a desk either. You don't want my brain wandering when I'm staring at the CIA file of some guy who's planning to hijack a 747 and fly it into a skyscraper........

No kidding. I would probably make a good soldier if it weren't for the fact that I'm a scatterbrain, and am pretty much "unindoctrinateable" so to speak.
 
I'm taking an army ROTC class right now, though I'm not ROTC. :yeah:
 
I attended a military school or two in my life. The lifestyle wasn't for me. (Not my decision--theirs)

Military life requires a certain kind of mental discipline I simply don't have. My brain is always wandering and my imagination is always playing silly buggers with me. Can't have that in the military--not on the battlefield, and not behind a desk either. You don't want my brain wandering when I'm staring at the CIA file of some guy who's planning to hijack a 747 and fly it into a skyscraper........

You do realize that there are lots of jobs in the military that don't require constant focus and concentration in order to avoid massive casualties, right? I'd guess that 99.9% of the military desk jobs permit just as much brain wanderage as those in the corporate world. ;)
 
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