The Islamophobia split on the left.

[Borachio]

Link to video.

Dear me!

 

[Arakhor]

This is serious stuff.

There's no way I can take that seriously. If that article is actually not satirical, it's literally making out with Poe's Law in a darkened bedroom right now.

 

[Borachio]

It's totally not serious. I'm amazed you could think anyone would take it as serious!

“The Palestinian Arabs have had more than a hundred years’ experience killing Jews,” said Catherine Ashton, the outgoing head of EU foreign affairs. “That’s the longest-running currently active Jew-killing initiative in the world. While we can’t expect relative neophytes in the field to attain the same level of achievement that the Palestinians have done, we can certainly offer the necessary support and encouragement to others in pursuit of the same goal.”

“By 2050, avalanches might be killing dozens of Israelis at a time,” offered Ashton.

 

[Arakhor]

This is the Internet, Borachio. But why did you disagree with my calling it ridiculous?

 

[Borachio]

I was jesting. I thought it so obviously ridiculous, I thought it would be funny to pretend it wasn't.

I was wrong. And not for the first time.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Looks like someone from Illini country needs to watch Apacalypto.

Not First Blood?

 

[Arakhor]

I was jesting. I thought it so obviously ridiculous, I thought it would be funny to pretend it wasn't.

Irony tends to travel poorly on the Internet, especially if the receiver is not primed to expect it.

 

[Takhisis]

If you reinvent language to suit your aims, you'll never be wrong. However, that is not generally the preserve of rational debate.

Remember that stateless Arabs are statist Fascists.

Reoccupying Gaza is basically impossible. The IDF simply doesn't have enough soldiers, and rocks thrown by civilians are just as deadly as guns.

Really?

There are many, many grassroots terrorist organizations who would attack the Great Satan as well, but from half a world away it's easy to neutralize them. Regardless, they cannot be 'eliminated' unless you go for the butcher-and-bolt strategy: control the borders, aim at everyone and everything in the area that even might be connected to the organization, and leave behind admonitory piles of corpses. The fact that Israel does not do this to such groups which congregate on its borders and facilitate endless war is already a huge concession on its part.

'We're not doing one thing which is evil, so people shouldn't criticise us for other things we do which are evil'?

Or is it just 'beware because we'll just get out of bed one day and decide to kill the whole lot of you'?

 

[jackelgull]

I think there should be a new law of the CFC forums- everytime a thread on Islam is opened up, for every post the probability of Israel coming into the debate approaches one.

 

[Takhisis]

Wynngod's law, I'd call it.

 

[classical_hero]

Oh God. That is a such ridiculous article, I wonder why CH thought that site was worth quoting. I guess it's like certain US media figures getting taken in by articles in The Onion.

Satire obviously went over your head.

 

[Takhisis]

Given that you tend to post the same type of thing in complete honesty with disturbing frequency…

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Satire obviously went over your head.

I see. Was your "not a peep from the world" also satire?

 

[Arakhor]

Satire obviously went over your head.

You are the living embodiment of Poe's Law, CH. Cut me a little slack if you were actually being satirical for once.

 

[Mouthwash]

How about hermetically sealing Gaza Strip just like a Mediaeval style siege? After all, humanitarian goods are what causes Gaza to tolerate Hamas rule anyway, and it is not that non-weapon goods are never stolen by Hamas only to be sold on the black market.

In the long term, a lot of people will be saved, as it hastens the end of the conflict. You do not negotiate with the likes of Hamas, other than accepting their surrender.

I would think so. But it would end up as a game of chicken. Hamas knows Israel couldn't afford to actually let thousands of people starve to death, and would simply take food from the weak so as to ensure that would happen before they themselves ran out of food.

On the other hand, we could create a large internment camp for civilians, possibly in Sinai, and then allow no food into Gaza.

 

[Traitorfish]

Isn't Gaza pretty much a glorified internment camp as it is?

 

[Arakhor]

On the other hand, we could create a large internment camp for civilians, possibly in Sinai, and then allow no food into Gaza.

Because internment camps worked so well for Japanese Americans in World War II… Good grief, Mouthwash.

 

[Flying Pig]

It would be more along the lines of the fortified villages in Malaya or camps in South Africa, I think - the problems with those were more of implementation than the concept itself. Physically separating the guerillas from the civilian population will work, it's just that it usually ends up hurting said civilians as well.

 

[Tahuti]

I would think so. But it would end up as a game of chicken. Hamas knows Israel couldn't afford to actually let thousands of people starve to death, and would simply take food from the weak so as to ensure that would happen before they themselves ran out of food.

If Hamas were to divert food from the populace to themselves, it could cause a revolt, since a significant part of the security force isn't directly affiliated to Hamas or the Izzadrin Brigades. If Israel had the guts to actually siege the place (and not just blockade entry of weapons/weaponisable goods), it may suffer a reputation hit in the short run, though overall will put Hamas in a certain death situation.

Because internment camps worked so well for Japanese Americans in World War II… Good grief, Mouthwash.

Internment camp is pretty unlucky terminology, since he sure as hell meant different (as in better from a humanitarian perspective) than the Japanese internment camps.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Oh cripes, you're for real.

Blimey.

Edit: humanitarian perspective!