the "tramp stamp", what do we think about it?

[warpus]

When I see a girl with a tramp stamp, I assume she's a tramp.

 

[Yeekim]

I am struggling to find any reason why I would link hair colour to trustworthiness, or being natural to being trustworthy.
Having failed to find such a reason, I generally judge trustworthiness by relevant indicators, rather than irrelevant ones. In this respect I stand out quite clearly from the crowd, who criticise me for my wacky opinions. Strangely, I have angered a particularly large proportion of the Americans I have met with this approach to life.

Having pink/green/blue hair-color and other assorted weirdness probably does not say anything about trustworthiness, but wouldn't you agree it still says a quite lot of other things?

 

[Mise]

I fail to understand why her having a tattoo would prevent her getting a job as a waiter or whatever. She can always wear a long sleeved whatever....

Well it was just an example. It would get pretty sticky in the summer though.

Besides, it's the fact that she has to cover it up in order to get a job that's stupid...

 

[BCLG100]

Yeah but what i mean is that she can get the job easily and then not get fired if she wears a short sleeve shirt the next day

 

[Mise]

Having pink/green/blue hair-color and other assorted weirdness probably does not say anything about trustworthiness, but wouldn't you agree it still says a quite lot of other things?

Don't be a tease, tell us what it says about them...

 

[Bill3000]

Having pink/green/blue hair-color and other assorted weirdness probably does not say anything about trustworthiness, but wouldn't you agree it still says a quite lot of other things?

Blue hair indicates that you are awesome, yes.

 

[Traitorfish]

I'm 20, and I think tattoos in general are usually lame. Occasionally I see a cool one (As a child, I lived in awe of a man who had Wolverine tattooed on his arm!) but at least nine times out of ten, I'm of the opinion that the person would look better without the tattoo. If that makes me a member of the "reactionary middle class" then that's alright by me. (Although I think I just prefer more natural looks, as I'm not a fan of makeup or piercings either) They don't offend me, or my sense of morality, I just don't think they look very good.

But there is a difference here- your position is one of aesthetic preference, based on past experiences. Subjective, yes, but entirely valid. Fugazi, on the other hand, made a blanket assertion as to the "disgusting" nature of tattoos and the question character and moral standing of those who wear them (and, so far, has failed to properly elaborate upon either assertion), which is an altogether more reactionary position.

I like the tattoo that Abbadon posted, but that picture that Erik posted is absolutely right, she isn't ever going to get a job that pays taxes. And that's the problem. She's not going to get a tax paying job because people are prejudiced against people with bold tattoos. Prejudice is bad. All the antipathy in this thread towards tattoos -- and subsequently judging them negatively -- is not a good thing for an otherwise progressive, open-minded bunch of liberals.

And the daft thing is, the repeated assertions of unemployability themselves represent a certain stripe of ignorance. While perhaps correct in certain parts of the service industry- although far from all, at least in my experience- most employers won't give much of a damn one way or the other, as long as you keep them covered. Only head, neck and hand tattoos really cross the line, for that reason, and even then, that's hardly universal.
Oddly enough, haircuts are far more likely to land you an awkward spot than tattoos, because they can't be covered, and because, being non-permanent, employers at slightly more liberty to hassle you about them.

 

[JohnRM]

the "tramp stamp", what do we think about it?

I automatically think less of any female who has one. I assume that they are, indeed, tramps. I might be wrong, but there it is. I have no problem with tattoos, in general, but most Americans that have them seem like morons. But, then again, most people, in general, seem like morons, to me.

 

[warpus]

tattoo = moron stamp?

 

[Yeekim]

Don't be a tease, tell us what it says about them...

It says they go out of their way to attract attention, even if it's negative.
It also says they probably don't have a job that pays taxes and that they aren't especially interested in getting one.

Quite enough for starters.

 

[fugazi]

It says they go out of their way to attract attention, even if it's negative.
It also says they probably don't have a job that pays taxes and that they aren't especially interested in getting one.

Quite enough for starters.

These people get weird haircolours because it fits their personalities, not because they want attention and feel more like an individual. You prejudiced man

 

[CurtSibling]

These people get weird haircolours because it fits their personalities, not because they want attention and feel more like an individual. You prejudiced man

Many people actually don't have personalities in the first instance...
This is why they follow whatever trend is popular...

 

[fugazi]

Many people actually don't have personalities in the first instance...
This is why they follow whatever trend is popular...

So a kneejerk to an extremity is what happens once some become aware of that fact? Hehe.

 

[CurtSibling]

So a kneejerk to an extremity is what happens once some become aware of that fact? Hehe.

Not exactly sure what you are trying to say, but I will assume you are wrong.

People basically tend to ape what their own particular 'tribe' or group do.

Also, there are those who will get an ugly tattoo because it makes
them believe that they have some kind of independence. Not so...
The 'tramp stamp' is like a trademark of commercialisation...

 

[warpus]

The purpose of the tramp stamp is something cool for the guy to look at while he's doing the girl from behind, correct?

 

[Brighteye]

Previous experiences with such people and if you haven't had, you're usually neutral at best. That I'm open to anyone with a weird hairdo and way of clothing (I got goths as friends for example and can keep a straight face when I see their most ridiculous outfits) doesn't mean that I'm blind to how most people look at it. People categorise and if we can't put someone we've just met into existing categories, we normally opt to put them in a more negative box. Or that's how I see it

This is a reasonable thing to say. But the prejudice itself, that in this statement you are merely recognising, is not reasonable.

The purpose of the tramp stamp is something cool for the guy to look at while he's doing the girl from behind, correct?

It has the same purpose as putting decoration, wallpaper or paint on your walls. Even I would be tempted to choose the colour of the walls of my home, despite generally being uninterested in decor and fashion.

Some people want to decorate their bodies, and just as some of us are content with how we look now despite not being able to change ourselves without surgery, and others are happy with how they look after tattoos, despite not being able to change those without careful (and not quite perfect), expensive removal.

 

[Miles Teg]

When I see a girl with a tramp stamp, I assume she's a tramp.

Just as long as you distinguish between hoboes, bums, and tramps.

 

[Traitorfish]

Seemed pertinent.

 

[JohnRM]

Seemed pertinent.

That would be funny if it were true, but half of them are trying to figure out the last episode of Lost. The other half are wondering who's next to get thrown off of American Idol. If you're lucky, there might be that one guy who recognizes that all of that is bull[crap] and wonders what the hell is wrong with everyone.

 

[warpus]

It has the same purpose as putting decoration, wallpaper or paint on your walls. Even I would be tempted to choose the colour of the walls of my home, despite generally being uninterested in decor and fashion.

Some people want to decorate their bodies, and just as some of us are content with how we look now despite not being able to change ourselves without surgery, and others are happy with how they look after tattoos, despite not being able to change those without careful (and not quite perfect), expensive removal.

Yeah, but a tramp stamp is right above the ass.