[RD] Trans Erasure

[Aiken_Drumn]

No one says you are not a vegan because you were not born a vegan.

I can assure you there will be vegans out there who were proud their parents raised them vegan. No True Scotsman.

I know it is absurd, I am just going thin on the wedge.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

I know it is absurd, I am just going thin on the wedge.

Yeah, we know

 

[IglooDame]

This works until it is something that you do have feelings about, unless you are incredibly relaxed. Flat Earthers? Pro-Lifers? Vegans? Eventually there is someone you're going to disagree with.

Sure. Pro-lifers think that babies are being murdered. Pro-choicers think that womens' bodies are being controlled/violated by the state. I think it's pretty reasonable to take action whichever side you're on in that one, because you're pushing to avoid harm inflicted on innocents. Where's the harm in someone being transracial? For that matter, where's the harm in someone being transgender?

Even folks deeply engaged in the abortion debate can keep in mind that their 'opponents' are well-intentioned but misguided (though once folks on the other side become 'the enemy' I suppose it becomes vastly more difficult). Purposefully denying someone's self-assigned identity seems mean-spirited and pointless, and certainly unChristian.

 

[Chukchi Husky]

I have been told that being transgender harms other people because it forces their identity on other people, it's selfish and inconsiderate to the feelings of other people. All I can think of is that who said that to me is really confident in their own self identity that they've never had any reason to question themselves or their own existence (he also said that "searching for yourself" is highly pretentious).

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I can assure you there will be vegans out there who were proud their parents raised them vegan.

You're missing the point. Humans are wired to be omnivores. Veganism is a life choice.

LGBT is not a life choice. It's biology they were born with, and had no option to say whether or not they're okay with it. Society has to grow up and accept this and not put barriers in the way.

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

You're missing the point by jumping in several comments deep without context.

My point really wasn't about veganism specifically and their is nothing gained retorting to it in insolation.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

You're missing the point by jumping in several comments deep without context.

My point really wasn't about veganism specifically and their is nothing gained retorting to it in insolation.

I've been following the thread, thanks. I have plenty of context, certainly enough to know that you're defending a stance that is definitely in the minority.

 

[bernie14]

You're missing the point. Humans are wired to be omnivores. Veganism is a life choice.

LGBT is not a life choice. It's biology they were born with, and had no option to say whether or not they're okay with it. Society has to grow up and accept this and not put barriers in the way.

Is biology a social construct?

EDIT. how much of biology is a social construct?

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

I've been following the thread, thanks. I have plenty of context, certainly enough to know that you're defending a stance that is definitely in the minority.

I'm not even defending a stance, so you're miles off.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Is biology a social construct?

EDIT. how much of biology is a social construct?

Seriously?

I'm not even defending a stance, so you're miles off.

We're done.

 

[Farm Boy]

I have been told that being transgender harms other people because it forces their identity on other people, it's selfish and inconsiderate to the feelings of other people. All I can think of is that who said that to me is really confident in their own self identity that they've never had any reason to question themselves or their own existence (he also said that "searching for yourself" is highly pretentious).

Not all those who seek are lost. Some are. But if looking around and seeing something other than a mirror bothers that person, maybe. Maybe.

 

[Noble Zarkon]

LGBT is not a life choice. It's biology they were born with, and had no option to say whether or not they're okay with it. Society has to grow up and accept this and not put barriers in the way.

The lesson of this week from here in Scotland is that we do need to get back to the reality of biology - the absurd spectacle of a Judge having to address a rapist as "Ms" before ordering him to a male prison must never be repeated.

Trans debacle is the end of the line for Nicola Sturgeon

Whatever happens now, the cult of Sturgeon is over; she is a busted flush.

reaction.life

 

[Snowygerry]

The judge can address him/her simply as 'the accused' no ?

 

[Farm Boy]

Would/does it wound the national soul to order the castration of a she?

 

[Noble Zarkon]

The judge can address him/her simply as 'the accused' no ?

No, in accordance with the operational guidance he was working everybody had to pretend the rapist was female, absolutely absurd and horrifying for the victims.

 

[Farm Boy]

Can a she not rape and be punished? Are women sacrosanct from such?

 

[Snowygerry]

This is the reason she [the modern depiction of Justitia] is blindfolded - it is not supposed to matter.

Edited for clarity.

 

[Farm Boy]

Link is broken.

Considering it looks like she's up for penetrative rape, should I consider it to be less than a enormous oversexed criminally harmful boner?

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

Would/does it wound the national soul to order the castration of a she?

Such barbaric punishments should be left in the past.

 

[Farm Boy]

Like what for rape, then? The "less barbaric" cage?

Like what I do for mammals whose death I will sell for a meal? Practically a Right for the consumer?