Trump Indicted!

[Narz]

I took one for the team and watched it.

It does not in fact feature AOC. He makes the point (around 8:30) that both sides use the phrase "failed state" (so that part of the video is relevant to our recent use of the phrase in this thread) and he illustrates with some on the left and Tucker on the right. To make the point that this rhetoric is prevalent on both sides.

He blames the American pessimism about itself on 1) extreme political rhetoric to scare voters into voting against the opposite side, 2) conspiracy theories, 3) foreigners and 4) capitalism.

He delivers all of his insights while bouncing up and down on one of those fitness balls, which is distracting.

US seems to me a state in peril. I think a functioning democracy depends on people trusting and accepting the results of elections, and that has been thrown so severely in doubt, that I'm not sure we can continue to function. That and casting the other side as the enemy (against whom you might need to wage a civil war) rather than as fellow citizens can't bode well for our ability to continue to function as a nation. So I worry not least because it's hard to see anything that can reverse such trends, or any effective way of trying to, even. He's right that "failed state" is way too strong for a nation that is as rich and powerful and secure and influential as our own. But I think he's a little blithe about the depth and severity of our dividedness.

Drama sells. If everything is about to collapse you better be prepared and stare @ your phone to learn more.

Meanwhile people continue to goto work, take care of their kids, immigrants continue to come to America.

 

[Narz]

Just started the video.

I'd goto VidCon to meet YouTubers, fun trip for future narz

 

[Birdjaguar]

Gov of Georgia said he is opposed to removing Fani Willis! good news

 

[Lexicus]

Gov of Georgia said he is opposed to removing Fani Willis! good news

But how can he intercede if those freaks in the legislature decide to try it anyway?

 

[Birdjaguar]

I think he has to sign the bill.

EDIT: There is a commission that deals with the issue.

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp Rebuffs Calls To Punish Or Remove Fulton County DA Fani Willis

"We are going to follow the law and the Constitution regardless of who it helps or harms politically," Kemp, a Republican, said.

www.huffpost.com

 

[Lexicus]

I think he has to sign the bill.

EDIT: There is a commission that deals with the issue.

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp Rebuffs Calls To Punish Or Remove Fulton County DA Fani Willis

"We are going to follow the law and the Constitution regardless of who it helps or harms politically," Kemp, a Republican, said.

www.huffpost.com

Yeah, he already signed that bill. But if it's an impeachment rather than some special-purpose bill to remove her doesn't he basically play no role?

 

[Takhisis]

Sorry Taki, I didn't think that was a sincere question.
I misspoke, I meant 'far left. ' if that helps at all.

You're still not saying either whom nor what you consider to be ‘far left’.

 

[Lexicus]

Yeah, he already signed that bill. But if it's an impeachment rather than some special-purpose bill to remove her doesn't he basically play no role?

I'm not sure he plays a role in the committee set up by that bill, either, but I'm not quite as worried about that because I think that bill probably facially violates the GA constitution.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Yeah, he already signed that bill. But if it's an impeachment rather than some special-purpose bill to remove her doesn't he basically play no role?

I don't know if he has influence over the commission, but being against its use should carry weight.

 

[Takhisis]

It was a given that this would happen, but it still has to be reported.

Of note, he signed the particular not-guilty plea with a Sharpie.

Donald Trump pleads not guilty in Georgia election racketeering case​

Former president’s court filing means he will not appear in Fulton county for formal arraignment next week

Spoiler :

Donald Trump has pleaded not guilty to charges that he conspired and engaged in racketeering activity to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in the state of Georgia, according to a court filing submitted by his lawyer in superior court in Atlanta.

The former president also attested in the filing that he would waive his arraignment – the formal reading of the indictment handed up by a jury this month – meaning he will not need to appear for that proceeding next week.

“As evidenced by my signature below,” said the two-page-filing submitted in Fulton county superior court by Trump’s lead lawyer, Steven Sadow, “I do hereby waive formal arraignment and enter my plea of NOT GUILTY to the Indictment in this case.”

Trump’s Sharpie-written signature marks the fourth time in as many months that he has pleaded not guilty to criminal charges, after previously being indicted in a hush-money case in New York, in a classified documents case in Florida, and in a federal 2020 election subversion case in Washington.

But it was no less momentous given the seriousness of the allegations in the sprawling 41-count Fulton county indictment, which alleges Trump and 18 co-defendants violated Georgia’s state Rico statute in pursuing a multi-pronged effort to undermine the results of a fair election.

The conclusion of the plea and arraignment process starts the pre-trial phase of the case. No trial date has yet been set for Trump, though the Fulton county district attorney, Fani Willis, asked to try all 19 defendants together starting on 23 October after two ex-Trump lawyers sought a speedy trial.

On Thursday, lawyers for Donald Trump moved to sever his case from two defendants who have asked for their own trials to be speeded up.

“We’re in a huge state of flux right now,” attorney Bob Rubin told Georgia’s WABE. “The case involving these 19 defendants seems to be going in a lot of different directions all at the same time.”

Trump’s lawyers have also been weighing whether to seek to have the case moved to federal court, according to two people familiar with the matter, and are expected to make a decision based on whether Trump’s former chief of staff Mark Meadows is successful in his effort.

To have the case moved to the US district court for the northern district of Georgia, Trump would have to show that the criminal conduct alleged in the indictment involved his official duties as president – he was acting “under color of office” – and cannot be prosecuted at the state level.

The reasons to seek removal to federal court are seen as twofold: the jury pool would expand beyond just the Atlanta area – which skews heavily Democratic – and a federal judge might be less deferential to local prosecutors compared with judges in the Fulton county superior court.

Regardless of the final trial venue and jurisdiction, Trump’s overarching legal strategy has been to delay. Even with the Georgia case, if Trump were to win re-election, he could theoretically have the case frozen while he assumes the presidency, legal experts have said.

Last week, Trump surrendered at the Fulton county jail, where he was processed as any other criminal defendant. He had his fingerprints taken, his height and weight recorded, and submitted himself to a mugshot that the Guardian previously reported he had desperately sought to avoid.

The booking came during the primetime viewing hours for the cable news networks, a time slot that Trump is said to have insisted his lawyers negotiate with prosecutors in an apparent effort to discredit the charges and distract from the indignity of the surrender.

The strategy to turn the surrender into a made-for-television circus has been an effort to discredit the indictments, a person familiar with the matter said, as well as to capitalize on the information void left by prosecutors after the events to foist his own spin on the charges.

And in a sign of the deeply interwoven nature of the Trump 2024 campaign and the legal team, his top political advisers at the very least explored whether Trump should appear for the arraignment and hold a press conference afterwards for “optics” reasons, the person said.

The bond for Trump was agreed at $200,000, the highest amount of any of his co-defendants, including his former lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who turned himself in for booking a day earlier after his bond was set at $150,000 after being charged with principally the same counts.

 

[Remorseless1]

I'm not sure he plays a role in the committee set up by that bill, either, but I'm not quite as worried about that because I think that bill probably facially violates the GA constitution.

The commission is powerless unless Kemp calls a special session, which Kemp said he won't do.

 

[Takhisis]

Two of the Proud Boys got convicted to 17- and 15-year prison sentences. Great Leader Enrique Tarrio's sentencing was moved from Wednesday (yesterday) to next Tuesday because the judge got sick.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Trump's Georgia RICO case will be live-streamed on Youtube it looks like.

Trump’s Georgia Trial Will Be Livestreamed On YouTube

Trump pleaded not guilty to the 13 felony charges against him in the case on Thursday.

www.forbes.com

Should be on this channel in a few months:

https://www.youtube.com/@judgescottmcafee/streams

 

[Takhisis]

The judge streams his own trials from a personal account?

 

[Kaitzilla]

The judge streams his own trials from a personal account?

I guess so?

The other 3 trials will not be televised, but I guess the trial from the state of Georgia will be televised because they are weirdos who hate artist sketches

**Edit**
Yup, Georgia is weird.
Most places don't allow TV cameras for broadcasting court cases.

In Georgia, cameras could sharpen the focus on Trump in the courtroom

Unlike his previous court appearances, if Trump is brought into a Georgia courtroom the proceedings are likely to be broadcast live on TV.

www.nbcnews.com

ATLANTA — If Donald Trump is indicted in Fulton County, Georgia, it will not be the first time the former president will answer to criminal charges in a courtroom. But this time, the entire process will likely play out on live television.

Unlike federal or Manhattan courts, where the former president appeared for his three previous arraignments, Georgia law requires that cameras be allowed into judicial proceedings with a judge’s approval.

In 2018, the Georgia Supreme Court, in an order amending the law to include smartphones, underscored the importance of transparency: “Open courtrooms are an indispensable element of an effective and respected judicial system.

“It is the policy of Georgia’s courts to promote access to and understanding of court proceedings not only by the participants in them but also by the general public and by news media who will report on the proceedings to the public.”

And unlike in New York, where Trump told the world he had been indicted but the public had to wait days until the document was unsealed, Georgia requires that indictments be made public immediately.

The presiding judge has the final say on camera access. Media organizations are required to file a formal request, known as a Rule 22, for the judge’s consideration. The filing is often considered more of a formality, as the requests are almost always granted.

**Edit 2**
Shows what I know.
Only Federal Courts outright ban TV cameras in court cases.

I'll try to learn more.

 

[Takhisis]

But his emails!

 

[Core Imposter]

Whether or not Trump is convicted does not matter much if Trump wins the election. He will be furloughed to run the country. And if he ever does have to serve time it will be in the custody of the secret service. So, he's never going in the system either way. Worst case scenario would be an addition to Camp David to house convicted Democrats and Republicans when we make this a part of the system. I guess we could look at it as the final gem in the Trump empire.

The sad thing is that we might get a truly evil and corrupt pol and no long have an unprecedented line of response available. Classic cry wolf fail.

Or I should say, competently evil and corrupt. Trump is nothing but a Keystone crook.

Can 100 million people watch a Utube feed?

 

[Kaitzilla]

Can 100 million people watch a Utube feed?

The current record is 8 million people viewing the live stream of the India moon lander succeeding at the lunar south pole last week.

World’s most viewed live-stream on YouTube: ISRO Chandrayaan-3 tops the list with 8.06 million views

India scripted history on August 23 with the successful landing of the Indian Space and Research Organisation's (ISRO) Chandrayaan-3 on the south pole of the Moon. ISRO created another record during the live streaming of the landmark event on YouTube. The streaming witnessed over 8 million...

www.deccanherald.com

 

[PPQ_Purple]

Is that judge McAfee as in like the antivirus? The universe has a sense of humor it would appear.

 

[IglooDame]

Is that judge McAfee as in like the antivirus? The universe has a sense of humor it would appear.

I believe that McAfee has departed the living world a while ago, and is definitely not judge material regardless.