Why Are Media Outlets Targeting YouTubers?

[danjuno]

I just watched the reupload of Pewdiepie's fiverr video. The video as a whole just reinforced my belief that he tried to be an edgelord and failed miserably. I don't know if dishonest is the right word, but I think reading this as some attempt to turn his followers into Nazis is rather strange.

 

[JollyRoger]

Why should Disney expect to stay tied to a miserable failure? It's a business decision, just as are the content decisions of the death-to-all-jews-jokester.

 

[danjuno]

Why should Disney expect to stay tied to a miserable failure? It's a business decision, just as are the content decisions of the death-to-all-jews-jokester.

I would have jettisoned him too if I were in Disney's position. The question, is he an anti-semite or just an idiot? I lean towards the latter.

 

[Kyriakos]

Wouldn't be surprised if Walt Disney was more of a nazi than Pewd, tbh ^^

 

[warpus]

I mean, maybe. It didn't end up that way, though.

Just seems to me that usually the stuff big media sites release is the stuff that they think will make them the most money in the long run. But granted I know absolutely nothing about pewdiepie other that he makes millions making youtube videos for kids

 

[BvBPL]

The video they cite as being evidence of Felix being an anti-semite conveniently didn't include the second part of the Fiverr video which said "subscribe to Keemstar", a noted inflammatory personality on YouTube. It was a joke. That's all it was. You don't attack stand-up comedians for every joke they make and you probably shouldn't with YouTubers either.

That’s because comedians have honed the craft of telling a joke. There’s a skill that comedians have worked on and practiced to making the outrageous funny. PewDiePie doesn’t have that level of proficiency. He hasn’t put in the graft as a comedian to know how to tell jokes about outrageous topics.

He sees comedians make outrageous jokes and assumes he is able to as well, but doesn’t realize that there’s a skill to making those jokes. He’s not alone in this. Plenty of people mistake outrageousness for jokes. PewDiePie is different in that he has a gigantic platform from which he can demonstrate his incompetence in this matter.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

Jesus Christ

Look guys PDP is almost 30. He's been running the Nazi imagery for months now. He took advantage of a vulnerable population to blast out an incredibly vile message. He's not a 15 year old high school kid trying to carve out a social niche. This dude has been a celebrity for years now. He knows people can't tell when he is being serious or not - that's part of his schtick. Would you taunt some homeless person by holding out a 5 dollar bill and telling them they can only have it if they walk into a restaurant and do a Nazi salute or something? That's what this is except way worse because the dude has 60 million subscribers. We all know better. He knows better. And that he tries to hide it by "humour" is the same strategy that lots of real white nationalists and Nazis fall back on. "Oh we're not serious/it's joke" nah dude this is trash and everyone knows it.

 

[Kyriakos]

Jesus Christ

Look guys PDP is almost 30. He's been running the Nazi imagery for months now. He took advantage of a vulnerable population to blast out an incredibly vile message. He's not a 15 year old high school kid trying to carve out a social niche. This dude has been a celebrity for years now. He knows people can't tell when he is being serious or not - that's part of his schtick. Would you taunt some homeless person by holding out a 5 dollar bill and telling them they can only have it if they walk into a restaurant and do a Nazi salute or something? That's what this is except way worse because the dude has 60 million subscribers. We all know better. He knows better. And that he tries to hide it by "humour" is the same strategy that lots of real white nationalists and Nazis fall back on. "Oh we're not serious/it's joke" nah dude this is trash and everyone knows it.

I really doubt that Pewd is capable enough to be an act-based celeb. He seems to be more of a "13 year old girls like me and sign on to my channel" youtuber, and obviously he would fail in any attempt of a joke, let alone if for whatever reason he had to involve nazi stuff there. Isn't he babbling on all of his videos anyway? I mean, ok, maybe (in theory...) he isn't as outright dumb as he comes across as in videos i have seen, but i would be very surprised if that is true.

Eg i just randomly looked for a game vid of his, and came across with the following, where literally in the first second one can tell how non intelligent the youtuber is

 

[Synobun]

Jesus Christ

Look guys PDP is almost 30. He's been running the Nazi imagery for months now. He took advantage of a vulnerable population to blast out an incredibly vile message. He's not a 15 year old high school kid trying to carve out a social niche. This dude has been a celebrity for years now. He knows people can't tell when he is being serious or not - that's part of his schtick. Would you taunt some homeless person by holding out a 5 dollar bill and telling them they can only have it if they walk into a restaurant and do a Nazi salute or something? That's what this is except way worse because the dude has 60 million subscribers. We all know better. He knows better. And that he tries to hide it by "humour" is the same strategy that lots of real white nationalists and Nazis fall back on. "Oh we're not serious/it's joke" nah dude this is trash and everyone knows it.

Shocking how the only people included in the "everyone knows it" demographic are people who don't know what they're talking about. Thus far, the only people I've seen vilifying Felix are the people who also go "I've never watched any of his videos" or go "I think Felix is dumb!!!" (as seen above). His fans all agree it's a joke, as do the people with no stake in the claim but are willing to do their own research rather than believing a single news article verbatim. Unless you are willing to make the argument that his explosion in popularity after this is entirely and solely orchestrated by a hidden Nazi population that have all flocked to his banner?

Dude's made hundreds of videos and there's less than a dozen in well over a year that have Nazi or "taboo" jokes. Plenty of other insensitive jokes he's made that you could target but I guess Nazism is the new obsession to wring your wrists over and see around every corner.

But sure, he's a Nazi/white nationalist because you don't think it's funny. Please.

 

[Kyriakos]

Well, he actually is dumb. Why do you think he isn't?
Itself this doesn't have to do much with the nazi "jokes", but it makes it more obvious that Pewd is out of his depth in trying to make a joke (let alone one which he had to involve nazi stuff in).
Look at how ex comedian Kramer (role) messed up his own "white supremacy routine" and ruined his career (though in my view he always was a below-average talent comedian anyway). Pewd obviously did something analogous, and he is not even a comedian, but is similar in being badly placed and ill-advised to open that can of worms for a "joke".

 

[Synobun]

Well, he actually is dumb. Why do you think he isn't?
Itself this doesn't have to do much with the nazi "jokes", but it makes it more obvious that Pewd is out of his depth in trying to make a joke (let alone one which he had to involve nazi stuff in).
Look at how ex comedian Kramer (role) messed up his own "white supremacy routine". Pewd obviously did something analogous, and he is not even a comedian, but is similar in being badly placed and ill-advised to open that can of worms for a "joke".

This strengthened his brand so I don't know why we have to look at people who've ruined their careers.

Either way, if he's so dumb, perhaps you can show us how it's done and use your superior intellect to become the #1 most subscribed to channel on YouTube? He managed it in a couple years with his stupidity, surely you can do it in, oh, a few months? Does that sound fair? I think it sounds fair.

 

[Kyriakos]

This strengthened his brand so I don't know why we have to look at people who've ruined their careers.

Either way, if he's so dumb, perhaps you can show us how it's done and use your superior intellect to become the #1 most subscribed to channel on YouTube? He managed it in a couple years with his stupidity, surely you can do it in, oh, a few months? Does that sound fair? I think it sounds fair.

I couldn't, yet being a massively known youtuber doesn't seem to be about intellect. Eg compare Pewd or other youtube super-celebrities to people posting videos about math or music they play.

 

[Synobun]

I couldn't, yet being a massively known youtuber doesn't seem to be about intellect. Eg compare Pewd or other youtube super-celebrities to people posting videos about math or music they play.

Hey man, if creating a brand that dwarfs all others is considered easy peasy lemon squeezy and only for the degenerates, then I'm not super inclined to think math wizard #47 and tuba player #12 are more intelligent.

 

[Kyriakos]

Hey man, if creating a brand that dwarfs all others is considered easy peasy lemon squeezy and only for the degenerates, then I'm not super inclined to think math wizard #47 and tuba player #12 are more intelligent.

Hey, have you been watching Pewd's videos again? (as in, would that be his new message?) /joking

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

Shocking how the only people included in the "everyone knows it" demographic are people who don't know what they're talking about. Thus far, the only people I've seen vilifying Felix are the people who also go "I've never watched any of his videos" or go "I think Felix is dumb!!!" (as seen above). His fans all agree it's a joke, as do the people with no stake in the claim but are willing to do their own research rather than believing a single news article verbatim. Unless you are willing to make the argument that his explosion in popularity after this is entirely and solely orchestrated by a hidden Nazi population that have all flocked to his banner?

Dude's made hundreds of videos and there's less than a dozen in well over a year that have Nazi or "taboo" jokes. Plenty of other insensitive jokes he's made that you could target but I guess Nazism is the new obsession to wring your wrists over and see around every corner.

But sure, he's a Nazi/white nationalist because you don't think it's funny. Please.

You've made a lot of assumptions about what I said. For instance, I never did call him dumb OR a white nationalist, and infact made a distinction involving the latter.

That said, there are plenty of people who don't know how to take him. His vow to close his account after 50 million subscribers was taken extremely seriously by a large chunk of his fanbase, with petitions, social media drives, all kinds of things, to get him to not do so.

My point is this. PDP is an almost 30 year old gajillionaire. He's been making videos for years and years now. He is cognizant of the pull and fame he has. He paid economically disadvantaged people to hold a sign about killing Jews. He knows better than this. We all do. He has a massive fanbase, some of whom will take his "jokes" or "edgelord humour" seriously.

For what it's worth, he also made a video years ago joking about raping women. The guy has been a grade A d-bag/edgy a-hole for years now. Sorry not sorry for saying it. The Nazi thing just happened to make it into mainstream news. Because most people have the sense to reject "lol kill all the jews" as humour. Again, it'd be one thing if he was a teen or an immature kid. He's as old as I am.

 

[Kyriakos]

^I think it is ok to have such youtubers. Sign of the times, but they are not the core problem. I mean... politicians and other oligarchs being like that is a lot more catastrophic

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

YouTube is just a bit of a trash heap, really. Shock humour is the norm among a large segment of its most popular vloggers. Ethan Klein (aka Vapenation guy) did a podcast with another popular dude where they spent a large portion of it just repeating the n-word over and over. It's common strategy:

1. Make stupid/******* joke
2. Gage response
3. If good response, continue escalating
4. If bad response say "it's a joke!!!!!! lolol!!!!"
5. Repeat

For as much as these people like to decry "PC culture" they sure do love to play victim.

 

[danjuno]

I don't think his age alone disqualifies him from being immature. I would say that the fact he immersed himself in an environment where everybody laughs at his jokes, no matter how moronic and tasteless, has stunted his maturity. A more extreme version of what PDP has become, surrounding himself with people that love his content no matter what, would be Chris-chan. He lives in a bubble, more or less.

And another thing: He is nowhere near being a billionaire. Forbes had his income at $15 million last December.

 

[BvBPL]

YouTube is just a bit of a trash heap, really.

There’s some really excellent stuff on YouTube. Food Wishes, for example, is informative, funny, and useful.

 

[danjuno]

Also, another reason I have trouble believing he is simply manipulative rather than self-deluded is how badly put together his "apology" video was. The video is so clumsily made I have a hard time taking it seriously. His behavior is just so consistantly child-like.