2020 US Election (Part One)

[Estebonrober]

I've worked since I was 13. Kids don't seem to do that anymore.

Its against the law in most states. Also whose going to employ these children?

 

[BenitoChavez]

Most places in the US, 14 is the age when children can legally work. Usually it’s menial labor like bagging groceries, mowing lawns, working at fast food places, etc.

 

[Berzerker]

Then presumably they would offer their support to a heterosexual candidate.

would that be homophobic?

The Democratic Party's failure to endorse a Republican candidate is proof of their despicable anti-Republican bias.

you're catching on, sort of... sexuality is not a choice, joining a political party is.

And how does this compare to this heterophobia thing which you still haven't defined?

heterosexuals need not apply... If straight people had a hetero victory fund and excluded gay people wouldn't they be accused of homophobia?

 

[Narz]

Its against the law in most states. Also whose going to employ these children?

I would employ a kid. At my last restaurant job there was a 16-year old kid working there. He was a pleasure to work with, very funny & motivated to do a good job & impress his older coworkers.

 

[Berzerker]

I delivered newspapers morning and/or afternoon for several years when I was maybe 11-14, every damn morning I was up by 5 am

didn't help my schooling

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I delivered newspapers morning and/or afternoon for several years when I was maybe 11-14, every damn morning I was up by 5 am

didn't help my schooling

Just how many years were you eleven?

 

[Sommerswerd]

Why isn't the quality of 13 years of education enough to prepare an adult for life in the real world with or without further training?

I've been on about this for years. It's a scandal that people graduate from High School essentially unprepared/unable to earn a living wage.

 

[Estebonrober]

I would employ a kid. At my last restaurant job there was a 16-year old kid working there. He was a pleasure to work with, very funny & motivated to do a good job & impress his older coworkers.

My point was that even in this market people are not hiring kids in numbers. Also considering hours of the day and what school entails it is situational whether its reasonable to ask kids to work while still in school.

 

[Kyriakos]

I've been on about this for years. It's a scandal that people graduate from High School essentially unprepared/unable to earn a living wage.

Some do even earlier:

 

[Sommerswerd]

I worked while in school. I went to sports practice after school, then to a part time job after practice, then home to do homework... or I did it in school the day it was due in the class just before... usually the latter.

Of course back then we walked 5 miles to school, barefoot, in the snow, uphill, both ways...

 

[Kyriakos]

I worked while in school. I went to sports practice after school, then to a part time job after practice, then home to do homework... or I did it in school the day it was due in the class just before... usually the latter.

Of course back then we walked 5 miles to school, barefoot, in the snow, uphill, both ways...

I did my homework while walking to school.

 

[Lexicus]

I've been on about this for years. It's a scandal that people graduate from High School essentially unprepared/unable to earn a living wage.

Mostly, unable. My dad's summer job when he worked in a fricking fruit cannery during the summers of his college years paid something like $27/hr in today's money. And btw this hits the nail on the head: free college is a great idea and I support it 100% but we also need to make sure people without college degrees can do okay.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Lex beat me to it, I was going to make the argument that so long as tertiary education is required to enter the job market, it should be free.

 

[rah]

WE could start working at Illinois at 13. I started caddying as soon as I was old enough. And after I got a bit older I'd caddy in the morning, work the bag room or in the club house restaurant later in the day and after I got my license would car park in the evening. It was a long day every day in the summers. If I did that, I could pay for a year of tuition at college and part of my room an board. I could easily make 3 grand a summer. (it was the late 60's and early 70's)

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Interesting article on the GOP's anti-democracy efforts:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/01/opinion/republicans-trump-democracy.html

 

[Socrates99]

WE could start working at Illinois at 13. I started caddying as soon as I was old enough. And after I got a bit older I'd caddy in the morning, work the bag room or in the club house restaurant later in the day and after I got my license would car park in the evening. It was a long day every day in the summers. If I did that, I could pay for a year of tuition at college and part of my room an board. I could easily make 3 grand a summer. (it was the late 60's and early 70's)

the laws are similar in MI only its 14 and the allowable jobs are super limited. Caddying, grocery bagging and paper delivery afaik. If everyone went out looking for a job at that age itd be pretty competitive because there's a pretty limited number of jobs like that. So what would be the answer? Expanding job types allowed? We need to be careful when advocating child labor.

 

[Lexicus]

Some do even earlier:

Wow, that is an amazing picture of Pete Buttgieg

 

[Socrates99]

I thought this was Pete...

 

[Lexicus]

I'm gonna try to make "responding to cute pictures of children who obviously aren't Pete Buttigieg as though they are pictures of Pete Buttigieg" the primary-defining meme

 

[Socrates99]

I'm gonna try to make "responding to cute pictures of children who obviously aren't Pete Buttigieg as though they are pictures of Pete Buttigieg" the primary-defining meme

Swalwell would be better since he thinks his defining trait is that hes younger than Biden