bernie14
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I don't agree with your assessment and given the results of this gallop poll, I don't think the majority of Americans do either
2020 US Election (Part One)
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onejayhawk
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Got to love separation of church and state.
Results will be available in 6-8 hours. For you, in the morning.
Bernie looks good for this one. There are always two stories--the winner and the surprise. I wonder who the surprise will be.
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Bernie and the surprise Andrew Yang
I was listening to CNN on the way home, and am watching at home now. They are speaking very favorably about Bernie on CNN. Van Jones in particular was praising Bernie for outperforming expectations and making the media eat crow.
I think that if Bernie becomes the frontrunner that he will continue to get increasingly more and more favorable coverage.
I think that if Bernie becomes the frontrunner that he will continue to get increasingly more and more favorable coverage.
Farm Boy
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New theory, not mine, but in keeping with what we have been talking about. It's the economy, stupid. That's conventional wisdom. And it's wrong in 2020. The incumbent polls the lowest in the areas that have been enriched the most during his stay. He polls the best where he's done them the most harm.
So, it's the culture stupid, I guess. Which makes being a socialist less somewhat of an anchor, and a blue candidate that isn't seen as quite an insane gun grabber better?
So, it's the culture stupid, I guess. Which makes being a socialist less somewhat of an anchor, and a blue candidate that isn't seen as quite an insane gun grabber better?
Zardnaar
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Bernie is about the economy.
No one's beaten Trump yet. He can still win, if he was competent and less incindary he should win easy.
But he's Trump.
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Culture is definitely what is driving the Republican base. Take the Super Bowl for example. I watched that whole thing and thought ti was a great game but I got to work today and found out what I was really watching was a stripper show put on by J-Lo and Shakira where a football game broke out. The amount of outrage about that halftime show kind of took me aback. I barely noticed it. This is where I point out that I work at a hospital and am surrounded by conservative women, but again the culture thing. Republicans are not helping these women at all other than voting culture votes and dogwhistling cultural points.
Conservative women are mindboggling to me, I can usually understand conservative men but total noncomprehension for the women. Anecdotally it seems like the only things that would be appealing is anti-abortion and racism but why is that enough to win the vote?
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Hell yea lol, that's almost to a tee the kind of things I hear. I mean the J-Lo thing had undercurrents of it built in, because she had the audacity to be on a stripper pole. Meanwhile these same girls been banging out Madonna album for 40 years
Berzerker
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I dont know where I got the idea Biden is an affable human being who can appeal to people, especially blue collar workers. I recently saw a montage of Biden belligerently telling potential supporters to go vote for someone else. He's just a mean person, Bernie aint a whole lot nicer but he's not that bad.
While I smile at the thought of Biden and Trump debating each other for the gaffes and laughs, Bernie aint telling stories about long ago when he was a youngster. People with dementia tend to do that so his brain is still working good even if the ticker is suspect.
Watching CSPAN coverage of the Iowa caucus in Milo, so far Warren got the most applause with Sanders a distant 2nd. Yang got some applause and Biden was a close 4th. I've grown to dislike Warren, what she did to Sanders with the sexism charge was kinda low, a little slimy...
Bernie's the anti-establishment vote, some people on the left gave up hope for the Dems and wont vote for a ~centrist Democrat with a terrible track record on human rights (looking at you Joe Biden) . A sizeable chunk of his base either voted for Jill Stein in 2016, stayed home or even voted for Trump.
While I smile at the thought of Biden and Trump debating each other for the gaffes and laughs, Bernie aint telling stories about long ago when he was a youngster. People with dementia tend to do that so his brain is still working good even if the ticker is suspect.
Watching CSPAN coverage of the Iowa caucus in Milo, so far Warren got the most applause with Sanders a distant 2nd. Yang got some applause and Biden was a close 4th. I've grown to dislike Warren, what she did to Sanders with the sexism charge was kinda low, a little slimy...
Bernie's the anti-establishment vote, some people on the left gave up hope for the Dems and wont vote for a ~centrist Democrat with a terrible track record on human rights (looking at you Joe Biden) . A sizeable chunk of his base either voted for Jill Stein in 2016, stayed home or even voted for Trump.
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They're way more conservative than conservative men generally. They do the brunt of the family work and bear the primary risks in the liasons they disapprove of. They feel it fast when the family culture degrades and then get lectured about "thier own interests." After the men are shamed for trying to teach thier daughters how not to be victimized by men, it's down to mom to teach them how not to get raped in a partially evil world. Which is different than, "Don't be a monster, lol."
Bernie is crushing it on the college campus Caucus. There was a guy on CNN just now hating on him... "this isn't indicative of the State as a whole"... and so on... Wolf Blitzer kinda forced him to admit that if the trend with young voters continues Bernie will win Iowa convincingly, but the analyst didn't seem to want to accept that Bernie was winning Iowa.
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Estebonrober
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I find this an over simplification and a refusal to accept culpability for ignorance. If the conservative cultural ideals actually served to help these desires at all I's be more sympathetic to your point. the reality is though that the Bible Belt leads in teen pregnancy and ignorance of sexual education leads one to more victimization not less.
Also the scope for recriminations and ostracism must be useful
Hm, so the caucus has a new system with re-alignments and other jazz?
Does this mean that the corpse of Biden will somehow feed other non-viable bots?
It does take a lot of time for the DNC to cook the results
It's a really old system I think
Not at this level - if you mean it is FPTP (?) And it isn't FPTP either, given representatives can trade people's votes (which is rather the opposite of a popular vote). Maybe you mean the disgusting college of delegates, in which case it (afaik) plays no role in single-state level.
Seems ridiculous to carry over votes when it won't be possible in the national election. At any rate, Biden apparently has fully collapsed in Iowa.
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