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Who was that?
2020 US Election (Part One)
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adcarrymaokai
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What the hell, this doesn't count.
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Most "criminals" enter the country legally, as well. I mean, if they haven't committed a crime but intend to, they aren't criminals yet. And most crime happens legally, anyway. It's only a crime when it's discovered.
Since 9/11 we've been trying to make it harder for criminals to get in, especially terrorists. If they're worried about getting caught at a legal entry point because our efforts are improving, they can just cross at their leisure where the border is open terrain. Thats the fear.
I was answering Kyriakos, not you.
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Your answer is wrong, though. Bush won the general election twice.I was answering Kyriakos, not you.
Just this week alone, a stowaway was found in the luggage compartment of a school coach coming back from France. No amount of walls, mountains, deserts or the like will protect you from people who really want to get somewhere.
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This is all nonsense though. If trump would just agree to the same deal we’ve had on the table for the last 15 years. Some sort of increased security pathway for citizenship and such just require in the language that it actually gets funded.
He could claim he got the wall and dems could claim he didn’t. It’s the only win win possible. Unfortunately the right wing echo chamber will prohibit such a thing.
He could claim he got the wall and dems could claim he didn’t. It’s the only win win possible. Unfortunately the right wing echo chamber will prohibit such a thing.
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Yet they were caught. Sadly, some take more poorly thought out routes. One still unidentified.
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And since 9/11 terrorism has only risen because most terrorists are domestic, and most of them are just frustrated white dudes who pick up a gun and go shoot up a school, club, or music festival.
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He doesn't want a win-win. The way he understands "deals," he only wins if only he wins.
It's not terrorism when decent folks do it.
The first one he stole, and he didn't even win the popular vote in the first place.
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Well, I sort of knew you were going to say this, but... regardless of how Bush seized presidency, he was "elected" as the POTUS and served two terms. Factually speaking, he didn't lose in 2000, which is what the Byzantine dude was asking.
Trump also didn't win the popular vote, and it's even questionable whether he won the electoral college, given that the results were very close, and there is evidence of gerrymandering and general election rigging from rich right-wingers... but here we are, entering the third year of his presidency.
Interesting time to be alive, ain't it.
He's not so much Byzantine as Roman.
The thing is, I'm tired of lies being repeated like that, as Fox News is wont to do. George Bush didn't win, he fixed the election. These last few years have seen gerrymandering, court packing, sudden changes in legislation, ballot destruction, disenfranchisement and worse. Some people would say that I should not poke my nose into it because I am not from nor in the U.S. and never have been, but Rammstein were right and we are all living in Amerika, and your laws and policies have an effect on every single country I've ever lived in, and thanks to the repeated batches of insane self-serving morons those effects have more often than not been detrimental, so i do take an interest.
So let's start, as it were, from the start. It was fraud. You have a system that doesn't work, let alone yield results. And now I'm off to bed.
The thing is, I'm tired of lies being repeated like that, as Fox News is wont to do. George Bush didn't win, he fixed the election. These last few years have seen gerrymandering, court packing, sudden changes in legislation, ballot destruction, disenfranchisement and worse. Some people would say that I should not poke my nose into it because I am not from nor in the U.S. and never have been, but Rammstein were right and we are all living in Amerika, and your laws and policies have an effect on every single country I've ever lived in, and thanks to the repeated batches of insane self-serving morons those effects have more often than not been detrimental, so i do take an interest.
So let's start, as it were, from the start. It was fraud. You have a system that doesn't work, let alone yield results. And now I'm off to bed.
He's not so much Byzantine as Roman.
The thing is, I'm tired of lies being repeated like that, as Fox News is wont to do. George Bush didn't win, he fixed the election. These last few years have seen gerrymandering, court packing, sudden changes in legislation, ballot destruction, disenfranchisement and worse. Some people would say that I should not poke my nose into it because I am not from nor in the U.S. and never have been, but Rammstein were right and we are all living in Amerika, and your laws and policies have an effect on every single country I've ever lived in, and thanks to the repeated batches of insane self-serving morons those effects have more often than not been detrimental, so i do take an interest.
So let's start, as it were, from the start. It was fraud. You have a system that doesn't work, let alone yield results. And now I'm off to bed.
And yet you didnt see the dems field gore in 2004. Fielding hell in 2020 is the worst idea.
Why on earth not? Bush won because Florida was given to him by corruption irrespective of the actual votes. That means he lost the election, he only won the Presidency.
First of all there is a difference between "a wall" the "The Wall", the latter being the monument to racial prejudice that Trump wants to build. You're intentionally conflating the two and then basing most of your arguments on that sleight of hand, which is why none of your arguments hold any water. Second, your question implies that other monuments to racial prejudice weren't built in the past, which is wrong because they were... people are tearing them down and fighting over them all over the country. Third, the answer to your question is... for the same reason that The Wall isn't being built now... people recognize everything wrong with it and are refusing to support it. And @El_Machinae already explained this to you, but you apparently ignored it.
No. Full stop. You've just admitted that you don't know what you're talking about.
Who are you quoting? Is this supposed to be a quote? Or something else?
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Again, this is a red herring. "The Wall" is totally different from "a wall" on the side of a house and you know it. Your continual attempt to conflate them is illogical and intellectually dishonest.
As I've already said... I'm well aware that people greatly resent being called out on their racial prejudice. But again, I'm not running for office so I don't care if truth hurts in this context.
FTFY... and answered your question in the process.
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Not sure if viable, but maybe the gov could sell/contract a large strip of border to some individual/ company? Maybe then it would also involve trespassing private property law.
I assume there are some law & order types who would want to buy so as to protect the republic etc.
I assume there are some law & order types who would want to buy so as to protect the republic etc.
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