2020 US Election (Part One)

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Nobody splits their tickets anymore lol. Partisan voting is way way way too powerful. It was already extremely low (in the low to mid teens) during Obama/Romney and in the single digits by Trump/Clinton, and polling continues to show it declining.

Edit: Dems were way more likely to split ticket vote (Clinton + GOP congress) than vice versa (Trump + Dem congress was very very small)

Well, given that I live in a district that split for Clinton but sent a GOP congressman to congress in 2016 there are apparently enough people splitting their ticket to make a difference, eh?
 
The "give the outsider a chance" crowd wasn't convinced on the buffoonery issue back then. At this point there's no disputing it. The only problem is that the same people who said "give the outsider a chance" are the ones who while ousting Trump would likely say "the best government is a hamstrung government" and split their ballots. They put Democrats in the house when they couldn't get rid of Trump, but now that they can get rid of Trump they will view putting a Democrat in the White House as a call to vote GOP down ballot.

So the Dems will out buffoon him with Biden? Clinton lost the House in '94.

Meanwhile, back at Berzerker spouting debunked conspiracy theories...

Both Donna Brazile and Elizabeth Warren and a whole lot of Democrats said the primaries were rigged in her favor. And thanks to Wikileaks we even have the emails showing how they did it.

Well, given that I live in a district that split for Clinton but sent a GOP congressman to congress in 2016 there are apparently enough people splitting their ticket to make a difference, eh?

You said the middle doesn't exist
 
So the Dems will out buffoon him with Biden? Clinton lost the House in '94.

Different kind of buffoon. Biden plays within the system. He pays attention to advisers and experts. He doesn't demand personal loyalty over loyalty to country. He's not pathetically narcissistic.
 
That didn't happen in 2016 and it won't happen in 2020. The claim that this is going to happen is just a colossal strawman. If Bernie is leading in votes and delegates going into the convention he is getting the nomination, period.

You all need to get off CFC and go call all your friends and family and tell them to go vote for Sanders.

Nobody said its going to happen and I dont know why that would be a straw man, but you're probably right. Since just about everyone has dropped either Bernie or Biden will likely get a majority and they wont need a 2nd count where the super delegates are free to vote.
 
Different kind of buffoon. Biden plays within the system. He pays attention to advisers and experts. He doesn't demand personal loyalty over loyalty to country. He's not pathetically narcissistic.

Thats not a plus in his favor, the reason Trump and Bernie have support is people are tired of 'the system'.

Wanna do pushups, Fat?

Thats pathetically narcissistic too... Cant claim the moral high ground with someone sharing so many flaws with their opponent.
 
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My American friend explained the idea is to compromise. Doesn't work anymore obviously.

That is the idea, and it does happen. Trump and the house Democrats will compromise on anything that is clearly and absolutely necessary to keep the country from just bursting into flames...and nothing else. That's what the fans of hamstrung government want.
 
Thats not a plus in his favor, the reason Trump and Bernie have support is people are tired of 'the system'.

Wanna do pushups, Fat?

Thats pathetically narcissistic too... Can claim the moral high ground with someone sharing so many flaws with their opponent.

The only person I know who claims to pay any attention to "moral high ground" is you, which is absolutely hilarious considering.
 
Of course he did. That "hamstrung government is the best government" faction is powerful.

Oh I agree with you, the fickle middle swings back and forth without being wed to a unified government. But Clinton got re-elected so I'm not sure the people who went against the GOP in 2018 will stay with the Democrats.
 
Report: Texas Rapidly Reduced Number Of Polling Sites In Black and Latino Communities

Data shows Texas officials have quickly closed polling places in some of the most diverse, rapidly growing regions of the state.

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A sign shows the way to the polling station at Austin Community College on Nov. 4, 2014 in Austin, Texas. Voters headed to the polls today to decide a number of tight races.


Former Vice President Joe Biden visited Dallas on Monday to collect a few major campaign endorsements from some of his former Democratic primary competitors.

South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar, and former Texas congressman Beto O’Rourke all suggested Biden would propel down-ballot Democrats to victory in politically moderate regions of the country. O’Rourke specifically said Biden would help Texas Democrats win the nine seats they need to reclaim the state legislature for the first time in decades.

“You, Mr. President, as the top of the ticket, can help us do that,” he said.

Because growing Black and Latino communities in Texas mark a demographic shift in the state, many pollsters believe Texas is a toss-up to swing either Republican or Democrat in the 2020 elections and for years to come. For the former candidates, a Biden endorsement is key for a new blue wave.

But recently compiled data and analysis show Texas Democrats face structural obstacles to victory that Biden alone cannot fix, including the closures of hundreds of polling places in counties with large or growing Black and Latino populations.

A 2019 report from The Leadership Conference Education Fund (LCEF), a civil rights organization, reveals Texas officials began rapidly decreasing the number of polling places in these counties with significant communities of color around the time the Supreme Court overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act in 2013. The provision, Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act, required certain states with histories of racist voting practices to get clearance from the federal government before closing polling places or changing their voting laws.


Furthermore, analysis reported by The Guardian found that the 50 Texas counties that gained the most Black and Latino residents between 2012 and 2018 closed 542 polling sites over that span, while the 50 counties that gained the fewest Black and Latino residents during that time only closed 34 sites.

“This is despite the fact that the population in the former group of counties has risen by 2.5 million people,” The Guardian reports, “whereas in the latter category the total population has fallen by over 13,000.”


Three Texas counties ― Somervell County, Jackson County, and Lanier County ― rank top ten in the nation in percentage of polling places closed since the Supreme Court’s Voting Rights Act ruling. And when looking at the total number of polling places closed nationwide, six of the 10 counties with the most closures are in Texas, according to the LCEF report. The organization found Texas closed 750 polling places statewide following the Supreme Court decision.

Texas is one of several states that allows the use of “vote centers” in place of regular polling sites. One major difference between a vote center and typical polling places is any voter can cast votes at a vote center, regardless where they live, whereas voters are assigned polling places by the county. For that reason, vote centers are sometimes seen as a convenient alternative to typical polling places. But in Texas, counties can close several polling places and erect only few vote centers in their place.

“While generally intended to enhance access to voting locations, this model often leads to massive reductions in polling places,” the report says, adding that contrary to the period when the Voting Rights Act was in full effect, Texas officials are now not required to determine whether the changes impose disparate impacts on Black and brown voters.

A spokesperson for the Texas Democratic Party said the raft of polling place closures in diverse communities are attempts by conservative election officials to shrink and restrict the electorate.

“People have died to fight for the sanctity of the vote,” the spokesperson, Abhi Rahman, told HuffPost.

“Republicans’ only way to retain power is to basically curb the vote, and we’re fighting back against all of those attempts,” he added.

Rahman said the Texas Democratic Party is conducting the “most expansive voter protection program in Texas Democratic Party history” in partnership with the organization Fair Fight, a voting rights group founded by former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacy Abrams.

“We have an around-the-clock voter protection team working to fight back and make sure voting is more convenient than it ever has been in the past,” Rahman said.
 
Oh I agree with you, the fickle middle swings back and forth without being wed to a unified government. But Clinton got re-elected so I'm not sure the people who went against the GOP in 2018 will stay with the Democrats.

Notice Clinton got re-elected...and so did the GOP majority in the house. I'm not sure the people who voted to put a lid on Trump in 2018 are satisfied with that lid, so I'm confident they are looking to do a better job of it by kicking him out...but they might tip the house back to the GOP at the same time if the GOP can convince them an unfettered Democrat is dangerous.
 
The only person I know who claims to pay any attention to "moral high ground" is you, which is absolutely hilarious considering.

I'm not surprised you dont pay any attention, you think we should be grateful to the people littering the Middle East with shrapnel. Nominate another morally bankrupt warmonger and we'll see if I'm the only one who understands the importance of the moral high ground. Oh yeah, we dont have to wait for that - she lost twice already to opponents of the Iraq War.
 
I'm not surprised you dont pay any attention, you think we should be grateful to the people littering the Middle East with shrapnel. Nominate another morally bankrupt warmonger and we'll see if I'm the only one who understands the importance of the moral high ground. Oh yeah, we dont have to wait for that - she lost twice already to opponents of the Iraq War.

LOL...sure man. Lemme know when the next meeting of "internet trolls for a higher morality" is scheduled.
 
Well, given that I live in a district that split for Clinton but sent a GOP congressman to congress in 2016 there are apparently enough people splitting their ticket to make a difference, eh?

So Biden will lose downballot seats, as he represents the Hillary continuation then?
 
Trump is the incumbent President during an economic expansion and hasn't started any wars. The fundamentals of this election are better for him than they were in 2016.

This would appear to carry a large pandemic shaped asterisk
 
So Biden will lose downballot seats, as he represents the Hillary continuation then?

That's a leap. The GOP won the house in 2016, in my estimation, because they ran an effective campaign of "the upcoming President Clinton must be kept in check just like Obama was." That led to their "happy accident" when Trump surprisingly won. I suspect that no Democrat can be on top of the ballot and not see some slip in the house, because too many people are pretty sure Trump can't win. But a Democrat who can and will be painted as "supremely scary" will make that worse.
 
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