2020 US Election (Part Two)

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He's saying good government. But he's a Libertarian. I'd just avoid it.
 
I don't care, I just hope Trump leaves.
No real hope that the US ever elects a good leader, like Bernie. I mean Bernie was defeated by the personification of senility.
 
I don't care, I just hope Trump leaves.
No real hope that the US ever elects a good leader, like Bernie. I mean Bernie was defeated by the personification of senility.

Bernie wasn't good. He was a populist and divisive, not a good combo.
 
It worked out for Trump, except that he was divisive for the right reasons, while Sanders wasn't.
 
I think it is the other way around.

Donald Trump is divisive for the wrong reasons, rudeness and administrative incompetence.

Bernie Sanders is divisive for the right reasons, urgently needed radical reform.

Either one is bad for election/reelection.

A lot of it is basic communication skills. Something polititians not so good at now.
 
Either one is bad for election/reelection.

A lot of it is basic communication skills. Something polititians not so good at now.

Not convinced by that. Clement Atlee wasn't known for his communication skills but he is generally regarded as the best Labour PM.
Politicians like Blair, Cameron and Johnson devote a lot of attention to trying to be popular and please everyone and end up regarded as shifty and manipulative.
 
If he picks Kamala Harris I'll have to revise my guess again and say virus or no virus Trump will probably beat Biden.
Revise away. He's probably picking Harris. I think I'd prefer Lance-Bottoms but it looks like its going to be Harris.
I'm not feeling Harris. Her implying Biden is a racist back in the primary is going to be awkward to work around
I don't know why folks think that's going to be any kind of issue. It's forgiven, forgotten, water-under-the-bridge. The campaign folks are basically hand waving it. The attack was against Biden personally. If he himself is over it how can you (the royal you) claim any righteous indignation about it? You can't. It's a non-issue.
we all know the baggage she carries on criminal justice issues / needless flip flopping on M4A.
Again, those aren't issues to moderates, which is who Biden is targeting.
If Biden wants to go moderate, I'm really feeling Tammy Duckworth. The GOP will really struggle implying she "hates America" given she lost both legs while flying attack helicopters over Iraq - Fox made Tucker Carlson take an entirely planned mid-week vacation when he said she wasn't patriotic. Her politics may tend toward the moderate, but she can also speak convincingly on child care issues -which is going to be big in November with remote schooling- on how hard it was for her to have a baby while a senator and raise a child.
They've essentially committed to a black female so Duckworth isn't even in the running. Also, she isn't a "natural-born American" AFAIK, so she is disqualified from being POTUS. So it would be impossible to consider her for VP.

EDIT:I just learned that while her mother is Thai, and she was born in Thailand, her father was US military, so she is in that untested gray-area with respect to her POTUS eligibility.
Plus, having a wounded veteran as VP ensures President Bonespurs is going to stick his foot in his mouth like in 2016 where he picked fights with Gold Star families and insulted McCain's POW status.
"Foot in his mouth"... but he still won... so obviously that's a non-issue.
If I had to guess, I'd say he will choose Rice. She'd make a fine president too.
Rice is a much better candidate on paper than Harris if you are going for moderates. However, Rice has very little name recognition, so I think she's out as far as VP goes.
While this is true it's the sheer foggy cognition which is just staggering. He's clinging desperately to stuff his lackeys have told him, but can no longer even keep that stuff straight.
I'd chalk it up to him just not GAF rather than cognitive problems.
Not convinced by that. Clement Atlee wasn't known for his communication skills but he is generally regarded as the best Labour PM. Politicians like Blair, Cameron and Johnson devote a lot of attention to trying to be popular and please everyone and end up regarded as shifty and manipulative.
That was Mitt Romney's problem as well.
 
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New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA
New York's attorney general has announced a lawsuit aimed at dissolving the powerful National Rifle Association over alleged financial mismanagement.
Letitia James said the NRA had diverted millions of dollars to leaders including its head Wayne LaPierre for their personal use.
"For these years of misconduct we are seeking an order to dissolve the NRA entirely," she said.
There has been no immediate response from the NRA.
This will help|hurt Trump politically.
[EDIT] The NRA response: "baseless, premeditated attack"
Premeditated? What law suit is not premeditated? We should be just filing lawsuits on a whim?
 
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My source was before the azios interview, might have something to do with it
It has been much like it for a while:
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I don't know why folks think that's going to be any kind of issue

I'd say it's more harmful to Harris in the long run. I mean, she can hardly call herself a woman of principle if she is willing to accept a job from a man she believes to be a racist just to advance her own political career. If she accepts being his BP, she is basically declaring that she's willing to compromise her beliefs for political gain/expediency. And that goes against the whole "we are the party of doing what's right" schtick the Democrats have been playing up lately.
 
I'd say it's more harmful to Harris in the long run. I mean, she can hardly call herself a woman of principle if she is willing to accept a job from a man she believes to be a racist just to advance her own political career. If she accepts being his BP, she is basically declaring that she's willing to compromise her beliefs for political gain/expediency. And that goes against the whole "we are the party of doing what's right" schtick the Democrats have been playing up lately.

Are you joking?
This is Harris.
She has no beliefs or honor.

Still, even with Harris as VP I think Biden can win, due to how ridiculous Trump is.
And win he must.
 
Harris is a pos, but hopefully Biden will manage to still win.

That said, if he dies before Nov 2024, it will be a horrible state of affairs.

Oh he will, if he wins with Harris as VP. She's quite capable of that.
 
I mean, she can hardly call herself a woman of principle if she is willing to accept a job from a man she believes to be a racist just to advance her own political career.
I think saying that Harris believes Biden to be "a racist", at least in the way I think you envision the term, is overstating things a bit.

But even putting that aside...man... I gotta clue you in on something... the bolded is just an everyday reality that's pretty much part and parcel of being black. If black people were overly concerned about accepting jobs from people who harbor racist, and/or racially prejudiced attitudes towards black people, or who had made racially prejudiced statements or actions in the past, we'd nearly all be unemployed. You gotta get along to go along... nobody understands this better than minorities in high places.
If she accepts being his BP, she is basically declaring that she's willing to compromise her beliefs for political gain/expediency a normal politician.
FTFY.
And that goes against the whole "we are the party of doing what's right" schtick the Democrats have been playing up lately.
The fact that you called it "schtick" means you already know what time it is when it comes to that. I (and others) have commented at length at how the Democrats always shoot themselves in the foot trying to "be the bigger people". So I've no problem with them putting that aside a bit to get Trump out. When your house is on fire you can't worry about cutting holes in the roof or getting water on the antique furniture.
 
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I think saying that Harris believes Biden to be "a racist", at least in the way I think you envision the term, is overstating things a bit. But even putting that aside...man... I gotta clue you in on something... the bolded is just an everyday reality that's pretty much part and parcel of being black. If black people were overly concerned about accepting jobs from people who harbor racist, and/or racially prejudiced attitudes towards black people we'd nearly all be unemployed. You gotta get along to go along... nobody understands this better than minorities in high places

Okay, but I'm speaking from the perspective of playing dumb and taking everything she says at face value. From that perspective it doesn't look good to publicly decry someone as a racist then turn around and take a job from that guy. The mistake Harris made was in publicly calling him a racist. I mean, you can't really walk something like that back.

And even though everyone knows why she said what she said and why she would accept the VP job, it's still going to be used against her later on when she makes another presidential bid. That's why I said it will hurt her in the long run.
 
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