Altered maps XI: Towards a New Decade!

[Tee Kay]

The American sphere covers all of Western and Central Europe, including Australia and most of South America? I'm guessing that an American put that together.

I thought about calling it the "Euro-American" sphere, but it's clear who's the dominant partner.

Broadly speaking, the entire world is part of the American Sphere, but just colouring everything blue would be boring.

 

[hoplitejoe]

Do the French really still have that much control in Africa?

 

[Tee Kay]

Do the French really still have that much control?

Surprisingly yes. France routinely send troops into the region, most recently to Cote d'Ivoire. France controls the currency of the fourteen countries that uses the CFA Franc. The rulers in the region are all pro-French, and they are deposed when they stopped being so. French economic interests dominate the countries' economies, control the infrastructure. And so on.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Cool map tails !

What was the 10000+ people protest in Hong Kong ?

Also, lol Moldova

 

[mayor]

shouldn't China have at least a little influence in Africa? I mean they do have large economic interests in the region...

 

[Tee Kay]

What was the 10000+ people protest in Hong Kong ?

Apparently, Hong Kong has a tradition of holding an annual protest march on the anniversary of the HKSAR. Last year the turnout was about 200,000.

shouldn't China have at least a little influence in Africa? I mean they do have large economic interests in the region...

They're certainly gaining influence there, but the roots aren't quite so deep yet IMHO.

 

[aronnax]

Link to video.

I made this! Watch it in the 480 quality in full screen!

 

[Winner]

I thought about calling it the "Euro-American" sphere, but it's clear who's the dominant partner.

And how do you define this "sphere"? Why isn't Tunisia "in transition", and how is "transition" different from "revolution"?

Anyway, do you have a larger version of the map? The Middle East is a bit crowded...

(It's a great map, BTW, did you make it alone?)

 

[Tee Kay]

Good job!

Damn Saudis and Romanovs!

I wonder why you colour in Egypt as a "vassal" though; while it was de facto autonomous, officially it was an integral Ottoman province. Other Arab provinces like Syria were under highly autonomous local governors as well.

Also, technically, Sandzak was under Austro-Hungarian occupation from 1878 to 1908. Antakya only became Turkish in 1939.

Edit: crosspost with Winner

And how do you define this "sphere"?

"The West" (I think we use the same definitions), in which the USA is clearly top dog, and allies clearly aligned with the West politically, economically and culturally, plus the countries of the USA's "backyard" in Latin America excluding those at an ideological impasse with the United States (ie Cuba and Venezuela, though the latter is economically dependent on it; I throw in Bolivia as well) and Brazil, which is big enough to be a regional power.

 

[Arakhor]

I thought about calling it the "Euro-American" sphere, but it's clear who's the dominant partner.

That at least would be more accurate and less offensive.

 

[Winner]

Link to video.

I made this! Watch it in the 480 quality in full screen!

Shame it took so long to destroy that abomination. Good job with the maps

 

[bombshoo]

@taillesskangaru

Great map but an inset of the Middle East is probably needed.

 

[aronnax]

Good job!

Damn Saudis and Romanovs!

I wonder why you colour in Egypt as a "vassal" though; while it was de facto autonomous, officially it was an integral Ottoman province. Other Arab provinces like Syria were under highly autonomous local governors as well.

While you are correct that Egypt was an integral Ottoman province, Ottoman attempts to control Egypt and the North Africa Beys were far more futile than Syria or Iraq. If I remember correctly, the governors of Egypt, if any were actually sent, were relegated more to a job of a messenger while the local Mamluk factions fought for control of Egypt, even prior to the 19th Century. At least the Levantine and Iraqi provinces could collect some taxes and reported directly to the Porte. So Egypt had more in common with the African Barbary States and functioned more like a vassal.

Also, technically, Sandzak was under Austro-Hungarian occupation from 1878 to 1908. Antakya only became Turkish in 1939.

I assumed that the Sanjak of Novi Pazar was still under Ottoman administration.
Oh damn it. I forgot about the Hatay province. I knew I forgot something.

And thanks! Hopefully it won't be overrun by the eternal Turkish-Balkan Internet war.

Shame it didn't reach Prague. Good job with the maps

Thanks for the compliment! And I fixed your post.

 

[Tee Kay]

Great map but an inset of the Middle East is probably needed.

Very probably. I'll mash one up that focuses on the Arab Spring if I have time, maybe.

@Winner: Yes, I made it; that is, I spent a couple of hours looking up statistics, googling news articles and trawling through Wikipedia. So it's a product of a two-hour not-so-careful internet search, so mind that it may not be too comprehensive or accurate.

Unemployment figures I got from CIA estimates on their Factbook. GDP growth figures are from Nationmaster - the stats are actually for 2010. From what I can gather (eg from news articles and this page), however, it wouldn't really change the map that much. China slowed down to about 9%, Indonesia speed up a bit to 6.5% from 6%. The biggest change is probably Ghana which has supercharged to above a 10% growth rate in the past year.

 

[Winner]

@Winner: Yes, I made it; that is, I spent a couple of hours looking up statistics, googling news articles and trawling through Wikipedia. So it's a product of a two-hour not-so-careful internet search, so mind that it may not be too comprehensive or accurate.

Unemployment figures I got from CIA estimates on their Factbook. GDP growth figures are from Nationmaster - the stats are actually for 2010. From what I can gather (eg from news articles and this page), however, it wouldn't really change the map that much. China slowed down to about 9%, Indonesia speed up a bit to 6.5% from 6%. The biggest change is probably Ghana which has supercharged to above a 10% growth rate in the past year.

Two hours? If I ever launch a company in Australia, you're hired

Shame it didn't reach Prague.

Thanks for the compliment! And I fixed your post.

That's actually quite offensive.

 

[Dachs]

That's Northeastern. Northern = Gobi.

Splitting hairs. Northeastern is a subset of northern, especially when the northernmost point in China is, in fact, in Dongbei, and is notably in a heavily forested area. Take it like a man already.

 

[W|M]

Link to video.

I made this! Watch it in the 480 quality in full screen!

It would be better to have a slightly longer time for each region so you can really see where the Ottomans established their control without just skimming through the map.

 

[Joecoolyo]

That at least would be more accurate and less offensive.

Bah. You're just jealous.

Shame it took so long to destroy that abomination.

Bah. You're just jealous.

 

[hoplitejoe]

Bias? Where?

 

[Tee Kay]

Splitting hairs. Northeastern is a subset of northern especially when the northernmost point in China is, in fact, in Dongbei, and is notably in a heavily forested area. Take it like a man already.

And you very well know what I mean when I say Northern. Dongbei is a distinct geographical region quite separate from Northern China (which, by the way, is officially defined as, well, not Dongbei). If I had meant Dongbei, I would've said Dongbei, as no one refers to Dongbei when they refer to Northern China (eg "Northern China suffers from a water shortage" or "Northern China is at risk of desertification"). Go back to your Diadokhoi and your Basileia Rhomaion.