Altered Maps XII: Not to Scale

[JohannaK]

Ah, that time when I knew the names of all 32 Irish counties...

 

[madviking]

Northern Ireland religion at the district level (NI doesn't use counties) for the 2011 census.

i'm assuming is the difference between catholics and protestants where green is catholic majority and orange is protestant majority.

 

[danjuno]

Ah, that time when I knew the names of all 32 Irish counties...

I challenged myself to remember them all and only got 20.

i'm assuming is the difference between catholics and protestants where green is catholic majority and orange is protestant majority.

Yeah, should probably edit that for people people who don't get the coincidence.

 

[JohannaK]

Well, I wish I could remember 20 myself now.

 

[Arakhor]

There are six, as everyone knows - Fermanagh, Antrim, Tyrone, Londonderry, Armagh and Donegal (FAT LAD). Those are the unitary authorities in that map.

 

[danjuno]

There are six, as everyone knows - Fermanagh, Antrim, Tyrone, Londonderry, Armagh and Donegal (FAT LAD). Those are the unitary authorities in that map.

I said NI doesn't counties in my original post. We were talking about the counties on the entire island. Also, the sixth Northern county is Down not Donegal.

Finally, what is FAT LAD?

Edit: Hmm...... I see. Though I actually read somewhere that protestants that live there actually don't have as much of a problem calling it Derry as protestants elsewhere in NI, though I'd need to talk to an actually resident to confirm it.

 

[Dachs]

There are six, as everyone knows - Fermanagh, Antrim, Tyrone, Londonderry, Armagh and Donegal (FAT LAD). Those are the unitary authorities in that map.

shoulda been four

 

[Arakhor]

It's been a lot time since I first learnt that mnemonic. It's like HOMES - Huron, Ontario, Michigan, Eerie, Superior - I have no idea in which order they comes, but I know what they're called (or at least, I thought I did). At least Donegal is in Northern Ireland.

 

[really]

At least Donegal is in Northern Ireland.

While Malin Head in Donegal is the northernmost point on the island of Ireland it is in the Republic rather than Northern Ireland.

If the UK wants to make an offer for Donegal I am sure we could come to an arrangement to be shot of them.

Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Down, Fermanagh, Tyrone = NI
+ Donegal, Cavan, Monaghan = Ulster

 

[Borachio]

Yeah, should probably edit that for people people who don't get the coincidence.

I'm really confused. So any area that has more than 35% Protestant is a protestant area, and any area with more than 35% Catholic is a catholic area?

What if it's 50% Protestant and 50% Catholic? Or is this a stupid question?

 

[Kyriakos]

I'm really confused. So any area that has more than 35% Protestant is a protestant area, and any area with more than 35% Catholic is a catholic area?

What if it's 50% Protestant and 50% Catholic? Or is this a stupid question?

It probably is a trolling map, stating which areas have over 35% MORE of one religion or the other. So county X could have 99% catholics, and be in the 35% green category, while county Y could have more than 30 in every 100 people be catholic, and still be in the 35% brown category, cause the protestants would be 35% more than the catholics there.

 

[Dachs]

It's been a lot time since I first learnt that mnemonic. It's like HOMES - Huron, Ontario, Michigan, Eerie, Superior - I have no idea in which order they comes, but I know what they're called (or at least, I thought I did). At least Donegal is in Northern Ireland.

Erie only has two Es. Cleveland is spooky, but not for that reason.

 

[danjuno]

While Malin Head in Donegal is the northernmost point on the island of Ireland it is in the Republic rather than Northern Ireland.

If the UK wants to make an offer for Donegal I am sure we could come to an arrangement to be shot of them.

Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Down, Fermanagh, Tyrone = NI
+ Donegal, Cavan, Monaghan = Ulster

I think Arakhor is trolling us, at least I hope so!

It probably is a trolling map, stating which areas have over 35% MORE of one religion or the other. So county X could have 99% catholics, and be in the 35% green category, while county Y could have more than 30 in every 100 people be catholic, and still be in the 35% brown category, cause the protestants would be 35% more than the catholics there.

Pretty much. Troll map is best map.

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

Australia .

 

[Joecoolyo]

It's been a lot time since I first learnt that mnemonic. It's like HOMES - Huron, Ontario, Michigan, Eerie, Superior - I have no idea in which order they comes, but I know what they're called (or at least, I thought I did). At least Donegal is in Northern Ireland.

There's a mnemonic to learn the great lakes? I just had to memorize them on my own.

 

[Arakhor]

I think Arakhor is trolling us, at least I hope so!

Blame Crusader Kings. My European geographical knowledge significantly increased after getting into Paradox games, but I still think of Ulster as being all of Northern Ireland. Really, would you accept that Donegal is in northern Ireland, where "Ireland" refers to the entire chunk of land west of Great Britain?

(It also goes to show that memorising mnemonics as a child is no substitute for actual knowledge.)

 

[danjuno]

Really, would you accept that Donegal is in northern Ireland, where "Ireland" refers to the entire chunk of land west of Great Britain?

Yes, that's where the trolling part comes in. Imagine that the capitalization of one letter can change the meaning! But wouldn't it make sense to call it North Ireland, given that North is more common for use in proper names (North Korea, North Dakota), and thus less chance of confusion?

 

[Arakhor]

I didn't name it and given that I'm an English Briton who has never set foot further west than Cardigan Bay, I'm not too sure my opinion is relevant.

 

[~Corsair#01~]

Edit: Hmm...... I see. Though I actually read somewhere that protestants that live there actually don't have as much of a problem calling it Derry as protestants elsewhere in NI, though I'd need to talk to an actually resident to confirm it.

In my experience, Derry is usually used to refer to the city while Londonderry refers to the county. This is from a Protestant/Unionist background (although a fairly apolitical one).

When I took a look on google, I got:
440K results for "County Londonderry"
29K results for "County Derry"

166K results for "Derry City"
9K results for "Londonderry City"

...Which suggests that this is what most other people do too. So, I am a resident of Londonderry (county) but not Derry (city).

Yes, that's where the trolling part comes in. Imagine that the capitalization of one letter can change the meaning! But wouldn't it make sense to call it North Ireland, given that North is more common for use in proper names (North Korea, North Dakota), and thus less chance of confusion?

North Ireland implies the northern half of Ireland, which we really aren't. NI is just 1/6 of the land area and 1/4 of the population.

Plus, North Ireland has the syllable "THAYRL" in the middle of it (NOR-THAYRL-AND), which is not something I want to have to pronounce on a regular basis.

 

[Winner]

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