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I swear, the more I read this thread the more confused I get. I honestly thought that this was just a sketch from MadTV or something.

My question: is Halloween your favourite time of the year given you can dress up as a furry and not seem out of place?
 
Tail plugs or belts?
 
Do you ever think the term "furry" might be part of why it is seen as such a joke (let's face it, it's just kind of a funny sounding word)? Is there a more serious term? Are there any "politically incorrect" terms that we should avoid using (given they are not completely obvious ones that involve profanity)?
 
What do your parents think?
 
What makes furries more important than cosplayers?

I never made the statement we were any more important, but if I did, I would say that by merit of the fact we have a strong community and sense of self-identification. I'm not sure if cosplayers have the same.

My question: is Halloween your favourite time of the year given you can dress up as a furry and not seem out of place?

For me, not really. I never paid much attention to Halloween other than as a time of year to hand out a bunch of candy to a bunch of kids I shall never see again for 365 days.

Then again, I don't fursuit.

Do you ever think the term "furry" might be part of why it is seen as such a joke (let's face it, it's just kind of a funny sounding word)?

Possibly.

Is there a more serious term?

The -y sound always makes things sound cuter/more childish. Furries are also called "furs." Probably a bit strange still, but the lack of the last syllable makes it sound less childish.

Are there any "politically incorrect" terms that we should avoid using (given they are not completely obvious ones that involve profanity)?

None off the top of my head. Pretty much all the negative furry terms are profane or vulgar.

What do your parents think?

I couldn't care less what they think, buuuut, from what I've gathered, they're fine with all my escapades. Sorry if you were expecting some epic "Rebellion against the parentals" theme. In fact, they subsidise all my purchases and stuff, so I'd say they fall under "passive supportive."
 
I never made the statement we were any more important, but if I did, I would say that by merit of the fact we have a strong community and sense of self-identification. I'm not sure if cosplayers have the same.



For me, not really. I never paid much attention to Halloween other than as a time of year to hand out a bunch of candy to a bunch of kids I shall never see again for 365 days.

Then again, I don't fursuit.



Possibly.



The -y sound always makes things sound cuter/more childish. Furries are also called "furs." Probably a bit strange still, but the lack of the last syllable makes it sound less childish.



None off the top of my head. Pretty much all the negative furry terms are profane or vulgar.



I couldn't care less what they think, buuuut, from what I've gathered, they're fine with all my escapades. Sorry if you were expecting some epic "Rebellion against the parentals" theme. In fact, they subsidise all my purchases and stuff, so I'd say they fall under "passive supportive."
That is because then it rhymes with curs
 
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This wasn't you with me at the mall a few years ago was it? :lol:
 
So...why do you seriously believe you're some kind of "community" any more than anyone else with any other hobby? Is it because you're made fun of relentlessly on the internet? I've read you earlier compare yourself to ethnic minorities, where you serious when you said that? Just because you take yourselves really seriously and form obsessions to your hobbies doesn't make them anything more than a hobby.

I mean I can buy that there are furries out there who aren't in it for the sex. And I can buy that maybe the "sexualised furries" as you call them constitute only one part of the greater furry "community." But I can't see how it's anything more than a loose collection of people with a similar interest, similar to people who like to build model airplanes, or watch Star Trek, or collect Pokemon cards, or any other hobby that people sometimes take past the point of obsession.
 
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This wasn't you with me at the mall a few years ago was it? :lol:

Unfortunately not. I want that suit however. Much better than mine...

So...why do you seriously believe you're some kind of "community" any more than anyone else with any other hobby? Is it because you're made fun of relentlessly on the internet? I've read you earlier compare yourself to ethnic minorities, where you serious when you said that? Just because you take yourselves really seriously and form obsessions to your hobbies doesn't make them anything more than a hobby.

The sense of identity really is the major part of it. It's like a religion, sorta.

It's not something you're born with, it's something you say you want to be interested in/believe in, and that forms a core part of your identity. I get offended when someone trolls furries the same reason people get offended when you attack their religion. It's a key part of my identity, even if it doesn't involve any talk of a deity or what he wishes for his followers. Or, failing religion, like a nationality.

I'll restate my belief in the furry community/identity/culture because of the following:

1. We have fabricated our own identity, just like any nationality. We feel a sense of kinship with eachother.
2. We have formed our own slangs, a little mini-dialect.
3. We organise our own websites to communicate with eachother and meet furs with similar interests.
4. From those websites, we have developed our own system of furmeets and furry conventions. It's like being a CFCer(with the meetups and such), but it's far more of an identity issue.
5. We have, as mentioned, established literal communities where furs live together, even if only a few.

What makes us different from a nationality is we have no established authority or geographic group. We're kind of like a nationality whose homeland has been annexed by somebody else, and who haven't really set up a formal government.

I mean I can buy that there are furries out there who aren't in it for the sex. And I can buy that maybe the "sexualised furries" as you call them constitute only one part of the greater furry "community."

That's a pretty good start to understanding us, understanding we're not all raging perverts despite the stereotype. I really don't need to cite the intra-fandom war over perverted stuff again, do I?

But I can't see how it's anything more than a loose collection of people with a similar interest, similar to people who like to build model airplanes, or watch Star Trek, or collect Pokemon cards, or any other hobby that people sometimes take past the point of obsession.

The identity thing. Do people who like Star Trek or Pokemon consider that a KEY part of who they are? I get the feeling that, for the most part, no, they do not, regardless of how much of a fan they are.

I consider my religious/political beliefs, my sexual preference, and my furryness all an integral part of my identity.

Regardless of how much one likes franchise x, by contrast, chances are you don't consider it an integral part of your identity. If I had to think of a key difference between the furry interest and any other interest or hobby, I think that would be it.
 
If I'm understanding you correctly, you operate under the belief that it's more than some hobby because you "self-identify" as such and consider it a key part of your overall identity. Okay, but that doesn't explain how it's not simply some obsession. People develop such obsessions over things all the time. There are some Star Trek fans who do consider Star Trek to be a key part of their identity, and of course they self-identify as Star Trek fans, so therefore they must constitute some kind of people who are oppressed, right?
 
If I'm understanding you correctly, you operate under the belief that it's more than some hobby because you "self-identify" as such and consider it a key part of your overall identity.

Identity is one of the main building blocks of a community, I feel. :)

It is also a major part of most furries' lives(online, at least), I imagine. Far more major than simply just collecting stamps or something. It's a fundamental part of who we are, more than just really liking something.

Okay, but that doesn't explain how it's not simply some obsession. People develop such obsessions over things all the time. There are some Star Trek fans who do consider Star Trek to be a key part of their identity, and of course they self-identify as Star Trek fans,

Do they feel a sense of kinship with eachother, form their own literal communities, etc.? I do know they have their own dialect/jargon with eachother, and they have conventions and such too I'm sure.

so therefore they must constitute some kind of people who are oppressed, right?

...I have no idea where you're going with this part, as the logic does not follow to me. I understand you're trying to draw a parallel to the issues furries deal with, but the logic still does not follow. Forming a community in and of itself does not equate to being oppressed... :confused:

I'm looking too much into it though.
 
You don't "fursuit" is this to say you don't dress up? Isn't that the whole point?
 
You don't "fursuit" is this to say you don't dress up?

Correct.

Isn't that the whole point?

Nooooot by a longshot! Pretty much none of the furs I know are fursuiters.

As I said, being furry is a very vague term, but the catch all pretty much is that you have some degree of interest in humanoid animals. Whether that interest involves fursonas, sexual content, fursuiting, etc. varies.
 
Ok, so you don't like to dress as a furry, you profess no sexual furryness.

What about you is actually furry?!?!
 
Ok, so you don't like to dress as a furry, you profess no sexual furryness.

The former is correct, the latter was never talked about. ;)

What about you is actually furry?!?!

...The fact I have an interest in anthro animals? That I self-identify as a fur? That I associate with many furs? That I know much about the culture/subculture? I frequent their sites? :confused:
 
Okay, so not all furries are sexual.
Neither are all fetishes sexual.

By definition of either term, they seem to fit each other quite well.

Fetish has sexual connotations, however, at least in my case.

No need to nitpick on semantics.
 
So, would you compare the persecution your people suffered to the Jews, the Gypsies or the Blacks?
 
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