I know that's the conservative answer to everything, but could you explain to me why it's the answer in this case?
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I know that's the conservative answer to everything, but could you explain to me why it's the answer in this case?
GhostWriter16
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Oh, so you mean guys that pretend to be conservatives
Reagan may have suckedl less than anyone else in awhile, but he still sucked. He was also a massive hypocrite. He had some of the best quotes of all time but didn't even halfway believe anything that he said.
Incidentally, Reagan was the reason Ron Paul left the GOP the last time. Pretty much anyone who talks about Reagan on LewRockwell.com also destroys his false legacy.
GhostWriter16
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Real conservatives and libertarians laugh at Reagan... or worse. I wish self-proclaimed conservatives would cite Coolidge instead of Reagan, it would make way more sense if they actually had a small government ideology.
If Ronald Reagan ran today and had to campaign based on what he actually did as President, he would be deemed too liberal to secure the Democratic nomination.
I wish there was more news to keep the thread on track, but sadly I only have this poll from the end of April:
Hillary Clinton is still massively popular, and in New Jersey Christie has some support.
Hillary Clinton is still massively popular, and in New Jersey Christie has some support.
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Funny that Christie is so much more popular with Republican voters than Republican basers....
Dreadnought
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I find that poll slightly dubious... I think (and fear) that most of the right wing primary voters wouldn't vote for Christie.
I'm going to get some real analysis going and post it in this thread after my finals are done... it's never too early to start the Presidential speculation!
(I'd like to chair the speculation on possible VP selections.
)Yeah, I don't think any of this should be a surprise. Christie would probably win re-elected if he was on the Democratic ticket AND the Republican ticket in NJ. Democratic name recognition outside of Clinton and Biden is so low that its hard to imagine anybody else really picking up any steam...and if Clinton DOES run, I have a hard time seeing more than maybe 1 or 2 other Dems bothering to run, given how much she'd monopolize the money.
I may be totally wrong, but I don't think either Clinton or Biden run though.
Hurricane Sandy, if you look at the polling questions, is keeping his approval ratings up. That, and he's endorsed some gun control/safety reforms in NJ, which is likely kicking up his ratings with traditionally anti-GOP voters.
I find that poll slightly dubious... I think (and fear) that most of the right wing primary voters wouldn't vote for Christie.
I'm going to get some real analysis going and post it in this thread after my finals are done... it's never too early to start the Presidential speculation!
(I'd like to chair the speculation on possible VP selections.
This poll was conducted of likely voters for the upcoming NJ state elections, where Christie is going up against Buono (a Democrat and a virtual unknown on the national stage). If anything, this poll should give Christie's presidential ambitions pause--even with a poll that covers the entire electorate of Republican voters, not just likely primary voters, he's not even pulling 50% in his home state. He was at 48% last year in a similar poll, so he's actually losing ground.
And New Jersey isn't an up-front primary--he'd have to win Iowa, New Hampshire, or one of the other early primary states or he's going to go full-Giuliani. And nobody should go full-Giuliani.
EDIT: Dreadnought, feel free to start the thread if you follow the rule of 2016 threads!
I've got a good idea for one too.I don't think it's impossible for anyone besides Clinton or Biden to pick up steam, but Biden looks more beatable than Clinton. Are you saying you think they both run or neither of them runs?
I would sure hate to see Christie in a dress.
CELTICEMPIRE
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Oh, so you mean guys that pretend to be conservatives
Reagan may have suckedl less than anyone else in awhile, but he still sucked. He was also a massive hypocrite. He had some of the best quotes of all time but didn't even halfway believe anything that he said.
Incidentally, Reagan was the reason Ron Paul left the GOP the last time. Pretty much anyone who talks about Reagan on LewRockwell.com also destroys his false legacy.
I don't agree with the spending, the invasion of Grenada, or the drug war, but he was good on pretty much everything else.
But he cut taxes and I think that he wouldn't have continued the high defense spending if he was President after the Cold War ended.
Dreadnought
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I apologize, I didn't realize it was in New Jersey only...
I was about to remark that the sample size seems really small for such a poll, but now I understand.
I'm actually not too surprised that Christie didn't poll higher. There's always the conservatives that idolize over a particular candidate, and the other possibilities in the poll seem to fulfill that idea.
He cut taxes taxes once and raised them 7 times. Even in the year he cut taxes, he did away with many deductions that made the tax cuts a net tax harm to small businesses.
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