BNP, does anyone take them seriously?

What is an insult?

Telling someone that it's up to them to prove why their own ethnic group should exist. If I asked "why is it important that black african americans should exist at all?" would you bother to answer it? Of course not, because you know it's inherently racist to try and make people justify their own existence based on their ethnicity.
 
"British" isn't really an ethnic group. If it was, distinctions such as "White British" or "Black British" etc. would be meaningless.

(For that matter, how many native Celts were dark-skinned?)
 
Telling someone that it's up to them to prove why their own ethnic group should exist. If I asked "why is it important that black african americans should exist at all?" would you bother to answer it? Of course not, because you know it's inherently racist to try and make people justify their own existence based on their ethnicity.

Why is it important that black african-americans are black? What about their "blackness," or what about white british "whiteness," is so important?
 
Telling someone that it's up to them to prove why their own ethnic group should exist. If I asked "why is it important that black african americans should exist at all?" would you bother to answer it? Of course not, because you know it's inherently racist to try and make people justify their own existence based on their ethnicity.
It's not important that African-Americans exist at all. It's not important that anyone exists at all, as an ethnicity or an individual. It's a matter of sheer historical coincidence that we do. But here we are, so we might as well try to get along.
 
Why is it important that black african-americans are black? What about their "blackness," or what about white british "whiteness," is so important?

No, you've changed the question again. Here is the original question:


Dachs said:
Why is it even important that there be white British people in the first place?

Why is the burden of proof on me to justify the existence of white British people? I think we both know that you would never ask this question of an African-American, so why the double-standard?
 
Mate, I just told you that it doesn't matter if African-Americans exist or not. What's important is that they do. Same with white Britons, same with you, same with me, same with anyone.

(edit: I mean, aside from the fact that, as Czreth points out below, you're pretty wilfully misreading the original question.)
 
No, you've changed the question again. Here is the original question:

Why is the burden of proof on me to justify the existence of white British people? I think we both know that you would never ask this question of an African-American, so why the double-standard?

I'm quite sure he meant why is it important that they're white British people as opposed to just British people.
 
I'm quite sure he meant why is it important that they're white British people as opposed to just British people.

I disagree as I'm almost certain that question had a deliberate racist subtext but whatever.

Edit: Dach's question
 
I disagree as I'm almost certain that question had a deliberate racist subtext but whatever.

Edit: Dach's question

That doesn't make any sense in context but whatever.
 
Why is there a racist subtext to Brennan's post, but to not to Nick "White Power" Griffin's original claim?

Griffin openly admits that he used to be a racist. He claims to have changed his opinions - whether we should take that claim at face value or not, is up for discussion.
 
But we should just go ahead and assume that Brennan spends his weekends in a black uniform singing the Horst Wessel Song?
 
But we should just go ahead and assume that Brennan spends his weekends in a black uniform singing the Horst Wessel Song?

Definitely. Please send me the pictures for my... collection.


Edit: Oh, and a quick question - why is it important that any Irish people should live in Belfast? I remember you guys got hot and bothered about that one.
 
"British" isn't really an ethnic group. If it was, distinctions such as "White British" or "Black British" etc. would be meaningless.

I think for all purposes apart from anthropology, ethnic groups exist because people say they do - if someone self-defines as 'Gloucestershire British' and someone else dislikes them for displaying the distinctive characteristics of 'Gloucestershire British' (the less said about which the better), that makes 'Gloucestershire British' an ethnic minority for all intents and purposes
 
The distinctive characteristics of being "Gloucestershire British" is getting rained upon a lot and dealing with a lot of hills. (Oh and poking fun at Somerset people for their lazy accents and at people from the Forest of Dean for being inbred!)
 
Well, I wasn't born in Gloucestershire (which makes a nonsense of any sort of ethnic identity), but I have lived here for 3/4 of my life. :)
 
I disagree as I'm almost certain that question had a deliberate racist subtext but whatever.

Edit: Dach's question
I was pretty obviously asking why it's important that Britons be white instead of black or whatever.
 
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