Castro: Cuban Model no longer works

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We need Luiz, MobBoss, VRWCAgent and RedRalphWiggum here right now. Cheezy is already here :popcorn:
 
Maybe we will see a free(er) Cuba within the next 10 years and an embargo lift.

Getting the embargo lifted should be Cuba's main concern because it will greatly increase trade and tourism.
 
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That the kind of freedom you want, mister?
 
I'm seriously trying to fund a trip to Cuba this year just so I can say I was there while it was under Castro. You know before the old man croaks.
 
The worst thing we could possibly do right now is invade to "support representative government".
 
Maybe we will see a free(er) Cuba within the next 10 years and an embargo lift.

Getting the embargo lifted should be Cuba's main concern because it will greatly increase trade and tourism.

Why would they want the embargo to lift? You think any decent socialist wants to see McDonalds and The Gap let loose on another market? They would go right back to being the US economic poodle, the ending of which was the point of their revolution(s) in the first place.
 
Naturally, he's talking about this now that he's old, out of power, and looking to burnish his legacy.

What will be interesting is when he dies. Military junta? Some sort of proto-republic?
 
Socialism was the greatest scam of the 20th century. People were tricked into this horribly authoritarian ideology by saying they'd be free but what they got was slavery. Of course it helps when you go on and murder or jail your opponents, all for the greater good obviously. Finally we're free of the binding shackles of imperialist totalitarian socialism (its true nature). Capitalism is the greatest 'socialism'. For freedom, capitalism and liberalism. :goodjob:
 
Fidel Castro isn't in charge any more, folks. His brother is El Presidente, Fidel is retired. I see no reason why there will be any dramatic change just because Fidel dies. They've already ensured continuity by getting Raoul into power.
 
His brother is still there, you know!

Fidel Castro isn't in charge any more, folks. His brother is El Presidente, Fidel is retired. I see no reason why there will be any dramatic change just because Fidel dies. They've already ensured continuity by getting Raoul into power.

I know his broseph is the president now, however that doesn't mean Castro himself is a symbol of Socialist Cuba and when he dies the system will not be or stay the same..
 
Castro improved the lives of people a LOT, but I think there should have been a more liberal government replacing him after Castrism started to get too oppressive and Soviet-like.

He did no such thing, he was an albatros around their neck.

Cue Luiz in three, two, one...
 
Castro improved the lives of people a LOT, but I think there should have been a more liberal government replacing him after Castrism started to get too oppressive and Soviet-like.

WRONG!!! :eek: the cuban people enjoyed much greater freedom, better education, better economy and a much higher standard of living prior to castro..... look it up!

Wait, when did the Cuban system ever work? :confused:

CORRECT!! :goodjob:

It prompted more economic growth than US exploitation of the sugar industry?
Furthermore, it is economicaly independant. That has to count for something.

WRONG!!! :sad: more is provided to the cuban people from their relatives abroad than by the cuban government

It was better than Batista.

WRONG!!! :cry:

see point one....

plus, at least batista liked good music...here some quotes from one (of many) castro's day long speeches in 1963.....

......En su discurso del 13 de marzo de 1963, Castro había criticado abiertamente a algunos “pepillos vagos, hijos de burgueses” que andaban con “pantaloncitos demasiado estrechos” y guitarras en actitudes “elvispreslianas”, que llevaban “su libertinaje a extremos” de organizar “shows feminoides” en lugares públicos......


in his discourse on 13 of march 1963, castro had openly criticized some “lazy punks, sons of bourgeoisie” who "wore pants way too tight" and guitars in “elvispreslian” attitudes, whom flaunted their liberal extremes by organizing “feminoid” shows in public places...

basically, he called the beatles a bunch of fags, and i dont mean cigarettes
 
in his discourse on 13 of march 1963, castro had openly criticized some “lazy punks, sons of bourgeoisie” who "wore pants way too tight" and guitars in “elvispreslian” attitudes, whom flaunted their liberal extremes by organizing “feminoid” shows in public places...

basically, he called the beatles a bunch of fags, and i dont mean cigarettes
He had a dumb way of saying it, but since when is disliking the Beatles a crime? Hell, it's where I could find common ground with the dude.
 
In before luiz.

Socialism was the greatest scam of the 20th century. People were tricked into this horribly authoritarian ideology by saying they'd be free but what they got was slavery.

Watch it there. There are and have been people who call themselves socialists and claim to be following socialism but really have very little in common with each other.

In that sense, "socialism" is no more a scam than your typical election "promise".

WRONG!!! :eek: the cuban people enjoyed much greater freedom, better education, better economy and a much higher standard of living prior to castro..... look it up!

Freedom, debatable; education, no; economy, debatable, standard of living, no.

It was under Castro that mass literacy and health care campaigns brought literacy from 18% to 97% and life expectancy to First World level.
 
He had a dumb way of saying it, but since when is disliking the Beatles a crime? Hell, it's where I could find common ground with the dude.

it's a joke....i'll tell u one thing....i remember about the SOB when i was about 3possibliy 3 1/2.....i was watching popeye, sitting on a tile floor one step down from a dining room table located on the terraza.....it was the climactic point, don't u know......brutus had beaten popeye to a pulp and hauled off olive oil by the hair.....popeye struggled up, somehow finding that can of spinich he kept in his jock i guess (OR PERHAPS WORSE)....he gulped it down, the muscles popped and he streamrolled towards brutus AND.....SH**....CUT TO FIDEL SPEACH....what the hell is this Ahole gesticulating about....i watched....for hours....just waiting to see what would happen to popeye, of course, u may be telling yourself u know exactly what will happen, but i was 3...i was watching this for the first time....will popeye get his girl back? will brutus just destroy him again?.....i had to know....but NO....that loud rabid convulsing foam at the mouth maniac continued for hours and hours.....i held out....i gave him the opportunity. it turned to night....BUT NO.....the cartoon did NOT continue after the unbearable marathon...then i cried....since then, i have been greatly skeptical of men in suits and uniforms,with their long and encouraging gesticulating speeches, perfectly choreographed and spouting change.....
 
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