Could it be happening?!

[Wrymouth3]

What a stupid thing to say.

You're right, that isn't normal for a conservative. He's a normal Tea Partier.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I won't be surprised if Rubio ends up with a serious look on his global warming platform. For those who don't know, Rubio has never changed his opinion once on the fact that global warming is actually being caused by people who "advocate advanced hypothetical science" (I also have absolutely no idea what that is). He has also seriously advocated that if there is climate change occuring, it's caused by people who propose theories that hurt the economy in turn. Otherwise, he's a normal conservative that has an undying hatred of African-Americans and also thinks the economy collapsed because of people making too much money on minimum wage .

I wondered why Rubio sounded familiar, he's the I'm not a scientist, man - man.

Looking for that quote I found: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/05/why-republicans-always-say-im-not-a-scientist.html

 

[gay_Aleks]

Link to video.

You want more of this?

It would be hard for Romney to beat the candidate to whom Obama hands the torch of Hope and Change.

So... Hilary Clinton?

What are you, a lunatic?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Never mind, wrong something.

 

[gay_Aleks]

They too say that insane people have a slight sense of reality and sanity.

Surprisingly, only the insane people say that.

 

[civvver]

Romney has already lost twice- once in the primary and once in the presidential election. He'd be an idiot to run again.

 

[Antilogic]

Both Rubio and Cruz would lose the Hispanic vote not just by campaigning but by who they are. Rubio would at least stem the changing Cuban demographic vote though which has been shifting more and more democratic and is not a bad choice for VP. Neither have a chance and would be near instant victories (statistically) for the Democratic candidate.

The best current shot to win the Presidency is still Christie and even then, if Hillary runs, she wins. The election so far is shaping up to be fairly simple. The only way the Republicans can really win is if the Democratic party shoots itself in the foot by trying to go with a flavor of the month candidate over some of the more established candidates.

If the GOP base can stomach a pro-life VP candidate and they don't make runs for the Senate, Governors Sandoval (NV) and Martinez (NM) are potential VPs. Similar demographic tokenism would be achieved but without a Senate voting record to attack.

I'd argue, though, the Dems only have a slight advantage going into the next election based on the tipping point states from 2008 and 2012. Maybe a 55/45 or 60/40 thing. Hard to tell before the primaries and general election season actually start.

I've been expecting Walker for a while now for the reasons you mentioned.

Yeah, I think he's a really strong dark horse right now. If he goes down in the 2014 election, that position could shift to one of the other Midwestern governors like Pence or Kasich.

Romney has already lost twice- once in the primary and once in the presidential election. He'd be an idiot to run again.

Although it hasn't happened recently (Nixon was the last general election loser to run again and win), the historical record isn't that shabby. Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, William Henry Harrison, and Grover Cleveland all pulled it off. You can include FDR if you count VP candidates (he lost in the 1920 election before becoming the Democratic nominee in 1932).

There are several counter examples like Henry Clay, William Jennings Bryan, and Adlai Stevenson though. Not sure what the official figure is percentage of run-agains winning.

 

[JollyRoger]

Until he releases his long form birth certificate, I will always wonder what Mittens is hiding.

 

[gay_Aleks]

He's Mormon.

And that's about it.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

That's awesome.

Let's see, in no particular order: (Rand) Paul, (Jeb) Bush, Huckabee, Christie, Ryan, Cruz, Rubio, Jindal... have I missed anyone?

Personally I think Rubio has the best shot.

Rand Paul's economic policy is full of gaps that upon close examination require no close examination. Jeb Bush I already said is probably the best of the lot but his brother is an albatross around his neck, Huckabee is a religio-fascist that will scare off so many voters the GOP wouldn't win an uncontested vote for dogcatcher if he were at the top of the ticket, Christie someone will find dirt on (probably Huckabee) and if no one finds any Mitt will make some up and hire someone to make it stick, Ryan is another one that has economic ideas that require ignoring gigantic mathematical holes, Cruz maybe, Rubio they don't even have to dig for dirt he's still wearing it from 2012 and can't wash it off, Jindal maybe.

Overall Mitt probably has as good a shot as any of them, which indicates they are really a bunch of losers.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

So you honestly think Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz are harder to beat than Romney?

I hadn't thought about Cruz, and I make it a point to never think about Palin.

I'm not sure how you can stack Christie up next to a Clinton and say Christie is automatically out because of scandals but the litany of Clinton dirty laundry is a-okay(I'm not talking about the sexual stuff, either). Is there a statue of limitations for when stuff stops mattering?

Also, I've gone over in the past the stuff that MSNBC runs with and been wrong, either by ignorance or malice. That doesn't mean people are actually listening. Cable news sucks and I've been much better off since I turned it off.

The issue with Christie's scandals is that in the GOP primary process they will get aired 24/7 in every state that has a primary. If he gets nominated he's dead before he starts. Of course that is true of every potential candidate since the apparent purpose of the GOP primary process is to destroy the GOP.

 

[Light Cleric]

I hadn't thought about Cruz, and I make it a point to never think about Palin.

Well, I could go on with the bad candidates(Newt Gingrich lol). Romney was still a better candidate than like 90% of the field in 2008 or 2012 and would be in 2016 too.
That, of course, does not mean he is a GOOD candidate.

The issue with Christie's scandals is that in the GOP primary process they will get aired 24/7 in every state that has a primary. If he gets nominated he's dead before he starts. Of course that is true of every potential candidate since the apparent purpose of the GOP primary process is to destroy the GOP.

That's part of why they restructured it, I never understood the purpose of it. All it did was drag on for months and months, going on longer and longer because a couple states wanted to have a dick-measuring contest about whose primary was earliest.

 

[Antilogic]

And they still preserved the carve-outs up front!

 

[Kaitzilla]

Honestly, I haven't been excited about a Republican Presidential Candidate since Fred Thompson.

Thompson describes Federalism as his "lodestar", providing "a basis for a proper analysis of most issues: 'Is this something government should be doing? If so, at what level of government?'"

Unfortunately, a hands-off President not trying to micromanage every crisis on Earth and the lives of every citizen down to the smallest detail just isn't considered a "serious" contender anymore.

Voters want an Emperor of the Universe these days.

I really hope Romney isn't running again.
Remember the last thing he did with his campaign?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/helaine...fers-credit-cards-in-the-middle-of-the-night/

Mitt Romney's Campaign Cancels Staffers' Credit Cards In The Middle Of The Night

The next time you have the misfortune of hearing a Wall Street titan or other one-percenter whine about how their trickle-down contributions are not appreciated by the masses remember this tidbit, courtesy of Garrett Haake at NBC:

“From the moment Mitt Romney stepped off stage Tuesday night, having just delivered a brief concession speech he wrote only that evening, the massive infrastructure surrounding his campaign quickly began to disassemble itself.

Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked.

A nice FU to all the people who tried and failed to get him elected. Glad I didn't vote for him.



Oh, +1 for Romney Style!

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I really hope Romney isn't running again.
Remember the last thing he did with his campaign?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/helaine...fers-credit-cards-in-the-middle-of-the-night/




A nice FU to all the people who tried and failed to get him elected. Glad I didn't vote for him.

More importantly than voters, I hope the staffers remember him well. For my part I hope he runs...I have a whole catalog of Romney-on-the-bus jokes I would love to dust off!

Romney <looking out the window as the bus rolls through the city>: Why are those people just sitting on that bench?
Staffer: They're waiting for a bus, sir.
Romney: Oh...I had mine delivered to the house.

 

[IglooDame]

I'm not sure how you can stack Christie up next to a Clinton and say Christie is automatically out because of scandals but the litany of Clinton dirty laundry is a-okay(I'm not talking about the sexual stuff, either). Is there a statue of limitations for when stuff stops mattering?

Not a statute of limitations per se, it's on a case-by-case basis: it stops mattering once everyone gets tired of the denials. Or when Hillary sits down in front of a congressional committee and declares that it never mattered in the first place.

 

[Wrymouth3]

I really hope Romney isn't running again.
Remember the last thing he did with his campaign?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/helaine...fers-credit-cards-in-the-middle-of-the-night/




A nice FU to all the people who tried and failed to get him elected. Glad I didn't vote for him.



Oh, +1 for Romney Style!

I liked how when that happened, they thought that giving credit cards for specific campaign uses was a genius idea. The best part about it all though was the fact that they used that credit card intially to fund their own ride to the airport or home .

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I liked how when that happened, they thought that giving credit cards for specific campaign uses was a genius idea. The best part about it all though was the fact that they used that credit card intially to fund their own ride to the airport or home .

Up until that moment, travel to and from campaign events was part of what the cards were for. Basically, this was a display of what Romney thinks of worker's rights in regards to notice of termination. Severance pay? Nah. Prior notice? Nah. Exit interview? Nah. Even mentioning that they've been terminated? Nah. Just stop paying them, they'll figure it out.

When Romney watches the movie Office Space and sees them say 'we laid Milton off and stopped paying him but he doesn't know so he just keeps coming in' he doesn't recognize it as parody of comically evil bosses, he took it as a sound business practice.

 

[kochman]

Up until that moment, travel to and from campaign events was part of what the cards were for. Basically, this was a display of what Romney thinks of worker's rights in regards to notice of termination. Severance pay? Nah. Prior notice? Nah. Exit interview? Nah. Even mentioning that they've been terminated? Nah. Just stop paying them, they'll figure it out.

When Romney watches the movie Office Space and sees them say 'we laid Milton off and stopped paying him but he doesn't know so he just keeps coming in' he doesn't recognize it as parody of comically evil bosses, he took it as a sound business practice.

I'm sure that Romney delegated the task, and that person blew it...
It wasn't exactly a surprise that the campaign was about to be over, either.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm sure that Romney delegated the task, and that person blew it...
It wasn't exactly a surprise that the campaign was about to be over, either.

Delegated the task? As in "listen Bob, while I'm up there expressing my gratitude to them for all their great efforts on behalf of my campaign, I want you to circulate through the crowd and remind them the campaign is over at the end of my speech so they shouldn't expect cab fare home'? Yeah, that's how a good employer handles the employees upon dissolution of their company.

The man is a barracuda barely draped in human skin and if given the power of the presidency would be the worst disaster ever to befall the citizens of the United States.