Daily Mail: Right wingers are less intelligent and more racist than Left wingers

[ParadigmShifter]

I thought Cheezy works as a cook.

I like paying taxes too, I don't work for the state.

 

[General Pilates]

Wow. Just so wow. Are you seriously defending the Barre regime?

Please state to me when the last time there was something 'decent' in Somalia, in your view

You know, for someone who claims that people in the state are parasites, you sure like to use the internet a lot!

 

[Commodore]

Are you not to going to respond to my rebut several pages ago and the points raised by other people?

No he's not going to respond, at least not in a meaningful way. This is because he has absolutely zero basis for his arguments and is just ranting like some 17-year-old-I'm-mad-at-the-world child.

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[MagisterCultuum]

I've seen earlier studies showing a correlation between intelligence and socially liberal political affiliations. I have never seen any studies that demonstrated differences in intelligence based on the economic left-right spectrum, only on the social authoritarian-libertarian spectrum. Right libertarians are no less intelligent than left liberals.

It may also be worth noting that there are studies which strongly suggest that corporal punishment leads to lower IQs. Authoritarian types are much more likely to have been beaten as children and to beat their own children.

 

[Joecoolyo]

Jesus Christ this conversation with the somewhat-psuedo-possibly-anarchist is absolutely hilarious!

Good show!

 

[Tee Kay]

He sounds more like a Randist.

 

[Commodore]

Jesus Christ this conversation with the somewhat-psuedo-possibly-anarchist is absolutely hilarious!

Good show!

As entertaining as he may be, he derails every single thread he posts in. He did this same thing in the post-apocalyptic currency thread. It also seems the only way to get him to stop his foolishness is to just keep badgering him and criticizing him until he goes away.

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[bhsup]

I freely admit that DT is probably way smarter than I am!

 

[downtown]

Obvious statement is obvious.

Yeah, I didn't need to read the last 6 pages. You figured it out on page 1.

I don't think these study findings should be particularly surprising either, although I would have preferred if the US pool came from more varied demographic groups.

 

[Crezth]

And they also forced him to get a Political Science degree, which is one of the most useless degrees out there! It's not like they ever gave him a choice as to what he wanted to study!

Yeah, not sure if he's aware of the significant cognitive dissonance at work here.

Except he did admit he was "an idiot" back then. Hey, Abegweit, do you want to give some concrete examples of occupations that you do not consider parasitic, in this day and age?

 

[phoenix_sprite]

Obvious statement is obvious.

This is exactly what I was about to say!

 

[Zelig]

Being smarter means you don't have to work as much to be more successful.

 

[classical_hero]

Look. I just told you what an idiot I was. How much do I need to add? I knew what it meant then and I do now. Marxists are idiots and I am ashamed to say that I was once so stupid.

The problem is that you have gone from one extreme to the other. The middle ground is much better than both extremes.

 

[Ayn Rand]

Isn't this [the OP article] just a great example of wishful thinking?

Also, it shows how much more balanced right-wing newspapers are - could you imagine the huff post or the guardian publishing an article claiming that lefties weren't intelligent? Of course not, because freedom of speech and giving the opposing side a platform is something they don't understand.

 

[Mise]

Now, now ... you're fighting ignorance with ignorance. "Right wingers are less intelligent and more racist than left wingers" is not the same as "Right wingers tend to be less intelligent and more racist than left wingers," and the difference is very much the same ill that right wingers tend to stamp on minority groups ('black people iz dumb and violent becuz there iz so many black raepsists in prizon,' 'becuz there wuz this gay guy who raept a kid, all gay guys raep kidz,' etc.)

Don't prejudge and condemn a group ... I know it is human nature, as unfortunately I tend to find myself commiting prejudism as I backlash about the majority powers-that-be, but -- speaking as a liberal myself who agrees that conservatives do tend to not think things through as much as liberals tend to -- the statement 'conservatives are less intelligent than conservatives' falsely and hypocritically prejudges every conservative as being less intelligent than every liberal. I view conservatism, as practiced today and for quite a few decades, as unwise ... but I know a number of conservatives who are quite intelligent with a variety of academically impressive knowledge or skills.

2 things: First of all I was just copying the title of the article I linked adding "and racist" to it. I report, you decide. Second thing is that what you're saying kind of misses the point. The study shows that low intelligence causes right wing views; if you're stupid, you're more likely to be a right winger than a left winger. Now, this does imply that right wingers are, on average, more stupid than left wingers (if you assume there's a 50/50 split between right and left). But the study actually shows us something stronger than a mere correlation. It shows a causal link between low intelligence and racist, homophobic, and right wing views. That's a much bigger deal, and arguing about whether "on average" is meaningful kind of misses the point.

And yes, it's my own fault for not explicitly specifying that point in the OP. But I didn't expect a serious discussion to develop based on this link regardless of what I said, so I didn't really bother trying to engender one.

Isn't this [the OP article] just a great example of wishful thinking?

Also, it shows how much more balanced right-wing newspapers are - could you imagine the huff post or the guardian publishing an article claiming that lefties weren't intelligent? Of course not, because freedom of speech and giving the opposing side a platform is something they don't understand.

This is an interesting hypothetical. In some alternate universe, where stupidity causes left wing views rather than right wing views, would left wing papers publish a study discovering this truth? In this bizarro, mirror universe, where stupid people weren't more likely to become right wingers, would the left wing media report this? I don't know the answer to that. And it will always be a hypothetical question, seeing as stupidity leads to right wing political views. But it's worth considering.

Indeed, I'd like to extend the question: What would the world be like if stupidity didn't lead to homophobia or racism? Would the world be a better place if stupidity instead led to tolerance and acceptance of minority groups?

 

[Benefactor]

Isn't this [the OP article] just a great example of wishful thinking?

Also, it shows how much more balanced right-wing newspapers are - could you imagine the huff post or the guardian publishing an article claiming that lefties weren't intelligent? Of course not, because freedom of speech and giving the opposing side a platform is something they don't understand.

The Daily Mail published it because it feeds there readers persecution complex. The Liberal Elite really are against them, and their latest tactic is "studies" saying they are stupid .

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Maybe the Princess Diana news was a bit slow this week.

 

[Arwon]

Indeed, I'd like to extend the question: What would the world be like if stupidity didn't lead to homophobia or racism? Would the world be a better place if stupidity instead led to tolerance and acceptance of minority groups?

Small children seem pretty on the ball.

 

[Traitorfish]

Forgot to answer this: yes, they only looked at social conservatives. That phrase was repeated quite a few times and I could find no references to economic right-wingers.

That's not a very prominent divergence in the UK, for whatever reason, so it's not quite the oversight it might seem to be.

 

[Aroddo]

I don't think right-wingers are more stupid because they are right-wingers. I rather think it's the other way round: Stupid people are more open to right-wing talking points like damn-foreigners-got-your-jobs and they-evil!-we-good!-let's-make-war! and education==elitism.

So the right-winger faction doesn't necessarily start out as stupid ... but they are fishing in stupid waters and they have good bait for stupid fish.