Marksman77
Aethernaut
When is deadline?
Fall From Heaven NES
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I need orders from merciary, Kol.7, and also Algeroth. Deadline is in a day or two, depending on my free time (there is forest fire burning near city)
Also, this map is bigger and therefore more legible but does anyone know a site where I can upload so big picture? Image shack automatically shrinks it.
Also, this map is bigger and therefore more legible but does anyone know a site where I can upload so big picture? Image shack automatically shrinks it.
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Awesome map.
Still lurking.
Still lurking.
Marksman77
Aethernaut
You don't need orders from me?
@Marksman - Didn't you send me some?
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Anyways next to your name I have note 'sent orders for turn 9' which means I added in your income and changed your gold or tech in at least some way. Of course you can still add something to your orders.
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Anyways next to your name I have note 'sent orders for turn 9' which means I added in your income and changed your gold or tech in at least some way. Of course you can still add something to your orders.
Marksman77
Aethernaut
Must've been someone else pretending to be me...
Sending now.
Of course you can add my income once more
Sending now.
Of course you can add my income once more
I prefer the provinces map, at the very least for expansion.
Considering there's no time for a turn, I also think they're better for the military and allow a better view of who controls what when looking at the map.
Concerning resources, mines can pop resources, so any lack of copper/iron/mithril/silver/gold can be made up with that trick. I can't say I saw many resources either, but blamed it on bad luck.
Considering there's no time for a turn, I also think they're better for the military and allow a better view of who controls what when looking at the map.
Concerning resources, mines can pop resources, so any lack of copper/iron/mithril/silver/gold can be made up with that trick. I can't say I saw many resources either, but blamed it on bad luck.
I think I'll post a map with discovered resources on, and more will be discoverable.
What if we keep the provinces map as an unofficial map version, so when you expand, you say - expand into area #XX. Depending on terrain, it may take more than one turn, or less than 50 gold. Economy is the same actually, so no change, and military is IMO better with detailed map.
What if we keep the provinces map as an unofficial map version, so when you expand, you say - expand into area #XX. Depending on terrain, it may take more than one turn, or less than 50 gold. Economy is the same actually, so no change, and military is IMO better with detailed map.
Marksman77
Aethernaut
Speaking of resources, I have Iron for sale.
Three hundred feet above the caravan was Radaig'i crouched above little shrub with elongated blue petal. All evidence indicated that it was pollinate by moths. Shape of blossom. Heavy, strong, sweet scent. Petals rapidly closing in the morning light. Their blue colour seemed superfluous, but Radaig'i learned that everything have a purpose in Nature. He picked some samples in order to examine them in future. He took a deep quaff from his waterskin. The same thick hide that protected his kin in marshes from thorns and mosquitoes was slowly roasting him in this climate. His body was begging him to find some cold and shady place but he had to overcame this urge if he wanted to take account of local flora. Radaig'i was send here to look for unusual flowers and write his findings down, but he was supposed to return four moths ago. Achebe will not be pleased but so what? The flowers here are by far more interesting that Radaig'i ever dreamed.
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However Mistah Achebe forget about Radaig'i long time ago. He was absorbed in finishing his article about Irarserg tribe for the special edition of his newsletter dedicated to orcish tribes living in Gritstone Plains. These Should became Kuriotate final frontier but the orc living there showed no interest in joining Kuriotates. And Cardith Lorda was slowly loosing his temper. The bloody stars is probably guilt for all of this. Mistah blood started to burn only whenever he looked at the sword constellation in the sky.
The army marched out of the city few day ago, but Mistah still hoped that if he shows benefactors of Erebus Geographis Society how rich and peculiar culture orcs have, they will pull the right strings and hopefully prevent bloodshed he saw in Malaka. He was there writing an article about Malakims when he saw the arrival of Blasperaphs and Khazad army. His guides lead him near the battle sites and military camps. The dwarves were treating orc like animals and they were furious from the lack of water. Blasperaphs however gone mad. There was no method in it. The were torturing and mutilating prisoners only for their amusement. The were raping orcish woman. They forced all survivors of one tribe to fight for death and when the last one won, the killed him and turned his skull into some bizarre unit relic. And when Mistah saw what they did to Thorkhú tribe, he wanted to tear his tooth off. He never told everything he saw in the desert because some things were too aberrant to be true.
But he decided to prevent all these atrocities. The only thing he had was this newsletter. And if he manage to create interest in other cultures, if he brings the reportage from despotic countries, if he coverage all the military conflict he could stop it. But he can't be in two places at the same time. He had however some excellent writers (And their excellency consisted mostly of their survival skills). Such as Hopper, eho was send to cover about the Amurites civil war. Mistah hoped that he will be able to talk Hopper into reportage from Calabim lands. He heard terrible stories from his Laun co-writers. He lean against chair, looked at the day that suddenly appeared outside his windows and drunk up the brown beverage made from Malakim beans. "If only someone started importing these beans here".
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(No one was complaining, so you are to blame)
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However Mistah Achebe forget about Radaig'i long time ago. He was absorbed in finishing his article about Irarserg tribe for the special edition of his newsletter dedicated to orcish tribes living in Gritstone Plains. These Should became Kuriotate final frontier but the orc living there showed no interest in joining Kuriotates. And Cardith Lorda was slowly loosing his temper. The bloody stars is probably guilt for all of this. Mistah blood started to burn only whenever he looked at the sword constellation in the sky.
The army marched out of the city few day ago, but Mistah still hoped that if he shows benefactors of Erebus Geographis Society how rich and peculiar culture orcs have, they will pull the right strings and hopefully prevent bloodshed he saw in Malaka. He was there writing an article about Malakims when he saw the arrival of Blasperaphs and Khazad army. His guides lead him near the battle sites and military camps. The dwarves were treating orc like animals and they were furious from the lack of water. Blasperaphs however gone mad. There was no method in it. The were torturing and mutilating prisoners only for their amusement. The were raping orcish woman. They forced all survivors of one tribe to fight for death and when the last one won, the killed him and turned his skull into some bizarre unit relic. And when Mistah saw what they did to Thorkhú tribe, he wanted to tear his tooth off. He never told everything he saw in the desert because some things were too aberrant to be true.
But he decided to prevent all these atrocities. The only thing he had was this newsletter. And if he manage to create interest in other cultures, if he brings the reportage from despotic countries, if he coverage all the military conflict he could stop it. But he can't be in two places at the same time. He had however some excellent writers (And their excellency consisted mostly of their survival skills). Such as Hopper, eho was send to cover about the Amurites civil war. Mistah hoped that he will be able to talk Hopper into reportage from Calabim lands. He heard terrible stories from his Laun co-writers. He lean against chair, looked at the day that suddenly appeared outside his windows and drunk up the brown beverage made from Malakim beans. "If only someone started importing these beans here".
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(No one was complaining, so you are to blame)
My biggest issue with the detailed map as it was shown is that it lacks borders/territory, so has less details than the province map. If you draw borders (rather than colouring the whole land, thus leaving the possibility to show more details inside), then it's definitely usable.
Of course there will be land borders! A fat colored line around someone's land and maybe faint, transparent colored tinting inside
End of Turn 9
Start of Turn 10
Start of Turn 10
Amurite War Report
Amurite civil war is drawing to an end. Tyrion turned his attention east, to what he percieved as more dangerous and harder-to-negotiate opponent. They met in an open battle on Big Weed Grasslands, huge open fields full of uncontrolled wild weed that prevented all other vegetation from growing. The battle was fierce, mages on one side and crusaders on other, but in the end Tyrion suffered so many losses that further advance became impossible.
On the other side, Valledia took control of the Rat Pass between mountains of west and East Cheremisa. Controlling the Rat Pass, everything south of it became easy to take, and cut off their supplies Tyrion troops either surrendered or retreat to Cevedes. City of Cevedes is under siege and a small strip of land is all what remained of Tyrion's influence.
In such circumstances Valledia and Cassel met and started negotiating. Cassel was willing to step out of his plans of Theocracy and accept Republic if the Order became a state religion, the Faction of Junil became a prominent faction, and if right to vote was given to everyone above income census, so that merchants and priests would have right to vote, and not only mages. This was taken even further as Cassel requested the abolishment of aristocracy and all their privileges, making all people equal before the law. This was accepted by Valledia as, in her opinion, Amurites never had a formal aristocracy, it's establishment is an evil deed of Thomas the Caswallen. This naturally pissed of the mages. They both agreed to abolish all forms of slavery and serfdom. New flag would be the Banner of True Sunrise. Ashen Viel and Emyrs practices would be forbidden.
Problems that would remain were necromancy practices. Valledia desired a state control over them, but still make them legal, while Cassel argued that they must be abolished. Cassel also wanted to transfer a part of judicial power to the Inquisition. Valledia wanted to abolish the position of Caswallen, as Head of State is to be elected, like a true leader, not to decided by ancient trials, like some wild chieftain. Mages were unhappy with their loss of privileges. Also, peasants felt betrayed as they would, as it stands, still have no right to vote, despite republic. But as it stands there won't be war between this two factions.
Khazad Malakim Treaty
Khazad made an agreement with Malakim tribes in the desert province. They established a trade routes, importing rare resources like incense, desert herbs and Malakim fine glass, and export basic resources like food supplies. In return, Khazad proclaimed a guarantee of independence to Malakim, promising that no foreign power will enter the desert again.
Khazad: +60 gold
Svartalfarl and Lanun prosper
Due to recent trades done by both nations, both governments see an tremendous increase in stability and support. Upper classes made some donations to the imperial treasury, and their states prosper.
Grigori borrow from moneylenders
Grigori nation had some ambitious plans for capital projects, but no real means to finance them. So they contacted the moneylenders and borrowed a quite large sum of gold. They now have enough gold for their use, but borrowed gold has interests to be payed, and treasury debt means insecurity to all the merchants and traders.
Grigori: -15 gold, -2 stability and went quite into negative treasury
Luchuirp city states again unhappy
Some city states of the Luchuirp are grumbling again They are afraid of the barbarians on their southeast, and are furious because their government didn't order construction of any mud golem. At the same time, government urged Balseraphs to abolish slavery and proposed to create and send golems to Balseraphs to replace slaves. They see this as a wrong sorting of priorities. While angry, they have still shown a strong feeling of Nationhood and donated gold to central authority to help the defensive efforts.
Luchuirp: +30 gold and -1 stability
Lanun adopt slavery
First Captain Matt read today a decision of the Captains' Assembly:
All men CAN BE free, but only if those deserving freedom ARE free.
Everything in this world can be bought and sold, so why not people? Some may want to sell themselves to slavery and live a life where they don't have to decide on everything on they own, but at last they have something to eat and somewhere to live. It is always possible to 'buy yourself back' from slavery. Lanun are a very dynamic society and a yesterday's slave can be tomorrow's captain.
Some become slaves by court's decision as punishment for crimes. This can be for a fixed period or for the lifetime for the most severe crimes, like murder or stealing or damaging someone else's ship.
And there are those who are not even civilized. They are not truly free. They're barbarians. If they were not slaves at heart they would create a civilization. They rightfully become slaves of whoever enslaves them.
The Lanun don't have many slaves at the moment, but a hard faith awaits those who get captured on the high seas.
Lanun: -1 stabilty, and adopt Slavery
Kuriotates fund abolishment
Boy King was purchasing slaves from other kingdoms that have adopted the foul practice. He invested some gold, but it was not enough, as only few slaves were liberated, but after seeing their suffering Boy King had no option but to invest more and more gold, buying people and giving them a new life. He was not wrong, as this people proved to be among the most hardworking and fathful part of Kuriotate nation.
Kuriotate: -15 gold, +1 stability, gain Village in Kwythelhelar
Svartalfarl, Balseraphs, Lanun: -2 stability
Calabim gem mines still not efficient
Calabim government still hasn't done anything about their issue with food so more income is lost.
-1 gold for Calabim
ANNOUNCEMENT:
I'm making a change to slavery, as it's too powerful compared to other labor civics. Slavery no longer halves construction costs, but reduces it by -20%
Also, Kol.7 didn't send orders again.
This map has all known and used resources chartered
Spoiler :
Provine map
Spoiler :
Nice report as usual Jopa. And the map is wonderfull. But to clarify things: The reddish thing is copper, and the statue in Grigori land is marble?
And Cardith Lorda would like to express his gratitude over the Khazad – Malakim Treaty. He recognizes them as a sovereign nation and guarantees their independence on any earthly kingdom.
And Cardith Lorda would like to express his gratitude over the Khazad – Malakim Treaty. He recognizes them as a sovereign nation and guarantees their independence on any earthly kingdom.
