NOTW L: The Immortals [Game Thread]

[Zack]

To be fair, spaceman only told Bad Player after the fact - this is because spaceman himself did not know until the night was over.

 

[Verarde]

Zack, my attack on King Morgan was unsuccessful as well. King Morgan was already dead when I arrived, so I wonder if someone else also had the idea of taking him out before the vamps could get there.

In any case, Bad Player, it's time to go.

 

[Zack]

Zack, my attack on King Morgan was unsuccessful as well. King Morgan was already dead when I arrived, so I wonder if someone else also had the idea of taking him out before the vamps could get there.

The update does mention something about being blasted in the face with Sun Mana...

 

[spaceman98]

I didn't know who the vampires were targeting until after the fact, and that is good. No one should tell me who they feed on until after the feeding has taken place. Bad Player and myself were involved in organizing the sun mana kill, amongst other people. So Bad Player knew that King Morgan would get sunned. Yet KM still had all of his manas when he died. This is also why I referred to infiltration. If BP is a demon, then we had a demon who observed the death of the other two demons. Which is possible, since he didn't suggest WH or KM as targets. Nor did he vouche for either of them. BP could also be a third party, as per Exar's "other threats" comment

 

[Zack]

Bad Player and myself were involved in organizing the sun mana kill, amongst other people.

Not so. You suggested to use the Sun Mana against KingMorgan, Player X explicitly said not to kill KingMorgan, Player Y killed KingMorgan. Bad Player said nothing.

 

[Frozen In Ice]

Spaceman, you are correct now that the thief is gone, it is safe to give the chaos mana to Exar. Frozen in ice. Instead I would like to claim the death mana for myself. Although I have to take all three of them for now, I'm going to share them with choxorn so that our vampire vigilante attacks are stronger. choxorn can also have the fire mana.

Does anyone want to claim any of the other mana? We should give that sun mana to someone we trust so we can have a second demon killer.

 

[Nintz]

Well. The town is starting to win. 2 demons in back-to-back nights. That's good obviously. Sadly I have little to offer. This particular game has not been my style, being primarily private communication based. And, as all of you will know, my private communications have been very limited. Almost none of you have received a message from me during the course of the entire game. I am fairly certain my secondary goal will fail as well, now that Sheaim-Calabim war is so close and I personally have no abilities to stop it. I have no mana except my starting orb, which I should have given to someone else long ago. In no small part because the mana that I can actually use has been scarce. Only a single ice has appeared, with one earth from day 2/3 that I (mistakenly) thought was of no use to me. The third type has not appeared at all.

The only possibility I have at this point is one possible lead that I am in no way certain of. If anyone still wants to hear it PM me. Otherwise, I'll vote whatever the town seems to want at this point. I don't have anything left really. This game kinda passed me by rather quickly.

 

[spaceman98]

Not so. You suggested to use the Sun Mana against KingMorgan, Player X explicitly said not to kill KingMorgan, Player Y killed KingMorgan. Bad Player said nothing.

True. Bad Player might be a mole

Spaceman, you are correct now that the thief is gone, it is safe to give the chaos mana to Exar. Frozen in ice. Instead I would like to claim the death mana for myself. Although I have to take all three of them for now, I'm going to share them with choxorn so that our vampire vigilante attacks are stronger. choxorn can also have the fire mana.

Does anyone want to claim any of the other mana? We should give that sun mana to someone we trust so we can have a second demon killer.

FII and the rest of the vampires seem a good choice for death manas

Well. The town is starting to win. 2 demons in back-to-back nights. That's good obviously. Sadly I have little to offer. This particular game has not been my style, being primarily private communication based. And, as all of you will know, my private communications have been very limited. Almost none of you have received a message from me during the course of the entire game. I am fairly certain my secondary goal will fail as well, now that Sheaim-Calabim war is so close and I personally have no abilities to stop it. I have no mana except my starting orb, which I should have given to someone else long ago. In no small part because the mana that I can actually use has been scarce. Only a single ice has appeared, with one earth from day 2/3 that I (mistakenly) thought was of no use to me. The third type has not appeared at all.

The only possibility I have at this point is one possible lead that I am in no way certain of. If anyone still wants to hear it PM me. Otherwise, I'll vote whatever the town seems to want at this point. I don't have anything left really. This game kinda passed me by rather quickly.

Please, post it, or send it in private to me or somebody you trust. At this point, BP is going to get lynched anyways. If he's a demon, then we might be done, or might have to fight third parties in which case your lead might be correct. If he isn't then posting your lead now will make sure that
1: You aren't silenced by nightkill
2: The Order of the Sun Mana can already follow up on it.

 

[Nintz]

Please, post it, or send it in private to me or somebody you trust. At this point, BP is going to get lynched anyways. If he's a demon, then we might be done, or might have to fight third parties in which case your lead might be correct. If he isn't then posting your lead now will make sure that
1: You aren't silenced by nightkill
2: The Order of the Sun Mana can already follow up on it.

Debating whether to post it publicly atm. One person already knows who it was. I'll probably send you a PM in a sec as well. Why not? If enough people know, then someone with Sun mana will check him tonight. Hopefully. There's honestly no one I trust in the game at this point though. I have very little idea who is who and what is what. I've been pretty much useless to the town this game. I'm honestly surprised I wasn't lynched before this for being a lurker. Heck, even the demons could have killed at any point without tangible loss to any teams. That's how bad I've been this game. Ah well.

 

[Bad Player]

I find it very difficult to believe that we have been infiltrated and BP is scum. If he is, wouldn't the other mafia have been warned about the kills against them? Then again, it seems that we might have the demons cornered. Is it true that a mana transfer takes 24 hours?

Was anyone attacked by the demon last night?

I don't trust Darth Feather with the fire mana. choxorn can have it for now, as a trustworthy safekeeper, unless DF has a very good reason to get it. Even though DF is probably town (I doubt that two amurites are demons), depending on how War works, he might be working against us now.

Chaos mana to exar. I don't see any townie use for it, and it seems that King morgan was the thief, judging by all the death manas. Hence, Exar is the safest person to get the chaos mana

No, you can transfer mana during night by requesting it during night and it occurs during the same night. If I was a demon like King Morgan I would have warned him that he was being attacked and to give away his mana.

 

[Bad Player]

For that matter too, if I was a demon like Winston Hughes, since I knew that Winston Hughes was going to be attacked, I would have warned him also to give away his mana!

 

[Zack]

That is such a flimsy defense. It's just as likely you didn't think to do so, or deliberately didn't do so just so you could make this argument you're making right now.

 

[Bad Player]

The update does mention something about being blasted in the face with Sun Mana...

This is all explained in the QT you were given access to. I knew that King Morgan was being attacked but was told in the QT that he was innocent and therefore the attack would do nothing.

 

[Zack]

This is all explained in the QT you were given access to. I knew that King Morgan was being attacked but was told in the QT that he was innocent and therefore the attack would do nothing.

This sentence is constructed in a manner such that it is confusing for me to decipher.

 

[Bad Player]

If it's not out of line, I'd like to post from the QT:

We can cross KingMorgan off the immediate suspects list I think. He finally fessed up to me about some stuff, I'm still pressuring him but it all sounds fairly legit so far and I know what happened on night three now.

Next post:

Sun mana is aimed at KingMorgan tonight (sent in the order before [player's] post below). I guess it's still useful as a 'second opinion' on KM

I.e. King Morgan was innocent and therefore the sun mana attack would do nothing I was told in the QT.

 

[Zack]

Yeah, I got that, I'm not an idiot. I read the QT and I read my PMs and I read the update. It's irrelevant to your defense. The way you worded it, I thought you were using the attack to somehow imply your own innocence, hence my confusion.

 

[Bad Player]

That is such a flimsy defense. It's just as likely you didn't think to do so, or deliberately didn't do so just so you could make this argument you're making right now.

The chaos mana protects people from being lynched during the day, there is little value in giving it to someone about to die at night (given he is demon).

If anyone trusts me enough, I would like the nature mana and some other mana to break down.

 

[spaceman98]

No, you can transfer mana during night by requesting it during night and it occurs during the same night. If I was a demon like King Morgan I would have warned him that he was being attacked and to give away his mana.

can sprig confirm or deny this? KMs manas, most notably the chaos mana, seem like stuff that the demons wouldn't be willing to lose, especially since the case against BP was built around the chaos mana

 

[spaceman98]

The chaos mana protects people from being lynched during the day, there is little value in giving it to someone about to die at night (given he is demon).

If anyone trusts me enough, I would like the nature mana and some other mana to break down.

IIRC, nature mana is a type of mana that is useful, so shouldn't be broken down...

 

[Bad Player]

Yeah, I got that, I'm not an idiot. I read the QT and I read my PMs and I read the update. It's irrelevant to your defense. The way you worded it, I thought you were using the attack to somehow imply your own innocence, hence my confusion.

Not really because if I was a demon then I wouldn't let King Morgan AND Winston Hughes die with the mana on them. That's just stupid.