Random Thoughts 3: A Little Bit of This, and a Little Bit of That...

[Takhisis]

Nobody has offered me fifty bucks to take you to Wendy's...or fifty cents for that matter.

I can offer you fifty peso cents to take Syn to a Wendy's so that I know I can visit California safely while he's locked up in there.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I can offer you fifty peso cents to take Syn to a Wendy's so that I know I can visit California safely while he's locked up in there.

I consider Syn a friend and even the usual fifty dollar rate wouldn't do it any more, so fifty peso cents isn't gonna do at all.

 

[Takhisis]

At the current twin rates of inflation/devaluation I can assure you that they'll be gone soon, to become rare collectors' items™.

 

[Synobun]

I consider Syn a friend and even the usual fifty dollar rate wouldn't do it any more, so fifty peso cents isn't gonna do at all.

Now you'll do it for $5?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

At the current twin rates of inflation/devaluation I can assure you that they'll be gone soon, to become rare collectors' items™.

Hmm. I guess Argentina's coin lobby isn't as strong as the US's.

The penny hasn't been useful for a decade but we maintain it as a giveaway to a metal conglomerate.

 

[Takhisis]

There's no point in stealing that small, hobbs.
I'll post an old joke as an example:

A US Congressman brings an Argentine Congressman over to his country for an official visit. The visitor asks the host how he got so rich, so after eating they go out on a road trip and the host explains:
‘See all these bridges and roads?’
‘Yes.’
‘Exactly!’
The following year the US Congressman goes to Argentina and asks his host how he got so rich. They go again on a road trip through a bare landscape and dirt roads.
‘See all the bridges and roads?’
‘Nnno?’
‘Exactly!’​

The Kirchners and their immediate family have embezzled more than Argentina's sovereign debt in a little over a decade in office. The Presidentess herself has just been indicted on over 900 individual counts of bribery this week. For just one of her ministries.
Just think of the scale.

 

[tjs282]

Oh, Sedaka did it first? Did not know that.

So that's OK then

You can always go for the Sum 41 version

I like the Elastica version:

I work very hard, but I'm lazy
I've got a lot of songs, but they're all in my head
I've got a guitar, and I don't care who pays me
But if I can't be a star, I won't get out of bed.

 

[Ryika]

The more I learn, the more I become convinced that every conservative argument is based on either a lack of information, intentional disregard for information, or misinterpretation of information.

 

[EgonSpengler]

The more I learn, the more I become convinced that every conservative argument is based on either a lack of information, intentional disregard for information, or misinterpretation of information.

I agree. Added to that, conservative positions (at least in this country, and for as long as I've been paying attention) always seem to be founded on, and expressions of, negative emotions - fear and anger and resentment. Almost every time someone has tried to articulate a conservative position to me, I've become more progressive; almost every time I've learned something new, traveled or met new people, I've become more progressive.

 

[Takhisis]

The more I learn, the more I become convinced that every conservative argument is based on either a lack of information, intentional disregard for information, or misinterpretation of information.

Good heavens, Ryika, you're maturing. If you keep this up I won't be able to learn all the German cusswords you promised to teach me because you'll think it a childish waste of time.

 

[cardgame]

I agree. Added to that, conservative positions (at least in this country, and for as long as I've been paying attention) always seem to be founded on, and expressions of, negative emotions - fear and anger and resentment. Almost every time someone has tried to articulate a conservative position to me, I've become more progressive; almost every time I've learned something new, traveled or met new people, I've become more progressive.

To expand on this thought, an addendum: feels over reals can happen to everybody, the subject cannot identify it in themselves. This happens in conservative circles pretty blatantly if you know what to look for; for example, welfare is basically the best investment you can make, for what you get in return: a more stable society, less crime of necessity, less malnutrition, etc. etc.and there are official statistics that bear this argument out and give it weight. But now the feels/reals train comes in and says that because I feel that these people don't deserve it, they shouldn't have it, evidence of efficacy be damned! I don't care if it leaves society in a worse place, I demand a punitive, not rehabilitative, justice system. Because, after all, they're criminals, and criminals are always inherently and irredeemably bad people.

Well, that's basically just crab pot theory with some extras added on, but the point remains that feels > evidence

 

[Ajidica]

Wow Sweden, I guess you solved all your more pressing problems.

The popular Distracted Boyfriend meme, based on a photo of a man turning away from his outraged girlfriend to stare admiringly at another woman, has been ruled sexist by Sweden’s advertising ombudsman.
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The ombudsman said recruitment advertisements posted on Facebook by the internet services provider Bahnhof, which labelled the boyfriend “You”, the girlfriend “Your current workplace”, and the second woman “Bahnhof”, were gender-discriminatory, the Local reported.

“The advertisement objectifies women,” the ombudsman, RO, said. “It presents women as interchangeable items and suggests only their appearance is interesting … It also shows degrading stereotypical gender roles of both men and women and gives the impression men can change female partners as they change jobs.”

The ombudsman said the image objectified the two women by presenting them as workplaces, but the man as an individual, and added that the “other woman” was clearly a “sex object ... unrelated to the advertisement, which is for recruiting salespeople, operating engineers and a web designer”.
...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/26/distracted-boyfriend-meme-sexist-swedish-advertising

 

[Takhisis]

I don't know how to react to the above.

 

[cardgame]

"gives the impression men can change female partners as they change jobs.”

where's the lie though?

 

[Takhisis]

It sounds as if the court would hold it acceptable only if there were the exact same advertisements but with the genders inverted as well. I just thought of that. It miiight work?

 

[W|M]

 

[Broken_Erika]

Awwww, Ryan Reynolds is jealous.

 

[Takhisis]

what wim said

 

[Ryika]

“The advertisement objectifies women,” the ombudsman, RO, said. “It presents women as interchangeable items and suggests only their appearance is interesting … It also shows degrading stereotypical gender roles of both men and women and gives the impression men can change female partners as they change jobs.”

An interesting reading of the meme. I always thought of the meme as portraying men negatively - as people who just can't help themselves but to be lustful creatures even to their own determent. A stereotype that is often true, but still a stereotype.

I guess people will always see what they want to see.

It's exactly what I'd expect from the explicitly Feminist Swedish government though, it's basically Canada on Steroids.

 

[Farm Boy]

Nah, don't saddle Canada with that puritanical bs. "Oh Ehm Gee, male desire is a disease, so much yuck. I are liberal, I deserve respect I am not prepared to return."

Actually... does kind of sound liberal-ish, in that regard. I'll have to reassess.